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16-03-2012 21:26 #81
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16-03-2012 21:34 #82
"Whinging Pom" isn't a racial slur. It doesn't have within it generations of belittling racism. It isn't flung at someone as an insult - it's pretty affectionate in my experience. It wasn't a term hurled at British people as they were beaten or stoned or raped or murdered or stolen from or stolen or any number of other atrocities.
"Whinging Pom" isn't said with the intention to demean, belittle and insult. Unlike actual racist terms.
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16-03-2012 21:39 #83
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I guess that's my point. Why is okay to stereotype in this way, but if it is regarding a minority group it has this nasty tone to it somehow?
If I were to say all black men have very large ***is' I am merely stereotyping. But if I were to say that all white men have very little ***is' am I stereotyping still or now being racist because that "stereotype" is negative? Or doesn't it count because the race is not a minority? Or does it only count as racist if the group is a different race to my own?
I find it all very confusing. And I think that is why you hear the phrase "I'm not racist, but" so often. Is people are scared of being labelled racist for making a generalisation.
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16-03-2012 21:45 #84
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Just a side note - I've heard the term Pom used in an insulting and belittling way many a time. Often followed by the phrase "if you hate it here so much why don't you F off home".
PS - I'm not trying to stir, I am honestly confused by this issue.
I was raised by a family who have quite racist views, but I also understand that they have their reasons for their feelings. I try very hard not to make racist comments and cringe when something is said in front of my kids. I make time for all people, and don't care where you hail from. I do however have strong views on boat people, speaking the language of the country you choose to live in, and assimilating without letting go of your beliefs or customs.
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16-03-2012 21:54 #85
The difference lies between being called a pom and being called a n!gger.
One is necessarily insulting and has a history of systematic racism behind it. One is not and does not.
Stereotypes are normal. EVERYONE regardless of how liberal they are has stereotypes. We use them to make snap judgements about people based on how they look - we have to in order to ascertain how we behave towards them. The problem comes when you apply those stereotypes to everyone of a particular race/class/sexual orientation/religious inclination etc. Regardless of whether that is something seemingly positive ('black men have big d!cks', 'Asian people are better at maths') because it encourages you to see that group of people as 'other'.
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16-03-2012 21:57 #86
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16-03-2012 22:03 #87
I'm glad it made sense
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20-03-2012 18:01 #88
*bump*
on tonight @ 830pm (well 830 my time)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHWpRdqQC0
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24-04-2012 13:17 #89
With regards to 'Pom' I often find it quite funny when I am called this... Mainly because a large proportion of Australians originate from England in their ancestry! I don't feel any negative racial connotations towards it!
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24-04-2012 14:22 #90
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Silly double post...
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