Out of interest, does a mental illness such as bipolar or schizophrenia preclude you from the defence or police forces?
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13-03-2012 16:04 #41Senior Member
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13-03-2012 16:04 #42
Sorry of someone's already mentioned this, but disclosure won't make much difference since there's probably plenty of undiagnosed people out there who won't need to disclose anything to an employer.
13-03-2012 16:19 #43
He could, instead, be a commercial pilot though.
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13-03-2012 16:56 #44
No it shouldn't be disclosed. Should stupidity and ignorance be disclosed? Please.
Mental illnes is a REAL illness. And someone elses suffering is no-one elses business.
Would you disclose that you once had an illnes? Oh I dont know, something like this.
'Hi- my names **** and I suffer from a lot of ear infections" No? It's irrelevant.
Light ya pitch forks ladies.
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13-03-2012 17:06 #45
You do have to disclose if you've ever been treated for depression, and yes, people do get knocked back if they have been treated (even for mild things like minor anxiety attacks that just give you the sweats when you're unsure). There is an appeal process, there are cases where if you have been off medication for at least a year under medical supervision and have had no problems then they will allow you to sign up.
Sometimes it's longer, sometimes it's shorter depending on your 'problem'. Sometimes it's just a flat out no. But in Defence (as I would imagine with police) you're dealing with live weapons and live ammunition on a regular basis and because of that the entrance requirements are quite stringent.
The justification is that even if you're being treated and haven't had a problem for years, there's one small problem. If you're out field and cut off from your medicine for even 1 day, what happens to you and all the mates that you're supposed to be watching the backs of?
But you're told all of that on enlistment. If you don't want to disclose that information, it's quite simple. You just don't enlist .
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13-03-2012 17:26 #46
13-03-2012 17:38 #47
Kimberley, surely you can see though that it's not a case of her mental illness being to blame for her lack of ability to care for others... so much as the fact that she drinks, does drugs and doesn't medicate herself properly for her MI.
It's not mental illness alone that's caused any drama - it's her decision to not medicate and to take drugs and alcohol as well.
13-03-2012 17:40 #48
Yes. But only if thyroid disorders, diabetes, endocrine issues, sterility, cholecystitis, kidney stones, ingrown hairs, tonsillectomies (etc.) are.
Mental illness is an illness. It is caused by exactly the same thing as other illnesses: chemical imbalances within the body. It can be treated by exactly the same sort of method: rebalancing the imbalances.
If someone keeps taking their meds, it's none of my damned business what those meds are for.
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13-03-2012 17:48 #49
This thread has been very interesting to me, as I suffer from anxiety and depression and am a student midwife. I can usually tell when my anxiety is going to get bad or 'flare up' and I can remove myself from situations in advance and seek help so that I can feel better ASAP. At its worst it is quite debilitating.
I don't think people should have to disclose details of their mental illness to employers. Although I wouldn't feel comfortable with someone who had an uncontrolled, untreated disorder caring for my child in daycare/kinder - im sure my children will come across those people many times during the course of their lives and we will probably never know. As long as there's assumptions and judgements made about people with mental illnesses it's impossible to feel safe telling people about it.
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