My now one week old was born via forcepts, had problem sucking, my milk came in late (day 5) I now have a low milk supply i pump about 40 ml every 6 hrs but he drinks 60 every 2 hrs.
I put him on my breast and he struggles, and might get a few sucks but then starts to open his mouth and shake his head. He is looking for my breast but now after 6 days on the bottle he is lazy.
I cant force him either as he starts to screem, turns red, and chomps down (tongue still uncoordunated) and still gets headaces from delivery
I also cant sit yet so i try put him on as i walk around but he is 4.3kg.
I want to do the breastfeeding thing but im thinking it may be too late now.
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05-03-2012 16:45 #1Senior Member
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one week old still not latching HELP
05-03-2012 18:40 #2
I would call the ABA right now - they offer a 24/7 helpline. Please don't give up so soon without any help, it's a common problem that can usually be easily rectified with a lactation consultant.
I know it's hard, my DS had tongue-tie so his sucking wasn't great in the first few weeks which led to low supply etc But we persevered and ended up with a great b/f relationship (well until he ended up with allergies anyway ). Good luck.
05-03-2012 19:03 #3Senior Member
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Have you tried nipple shields? Without them, BF my daughter wouldn't have lasted two weeks. With them, I was able to feed her for nearly six months.
05-03-2012 19:10 #4
Have you tried feeding while lying down? My DD had attachment issues until I fed her lying down a few times, then after that, would hold her "backwards" (so her feet were going around my side towrds my back)
Then I eventually started feeding her sitting up with her in the "normal" (for want of a better word) position.
Also if you are stressed about it, he won't attach as they can feel it and just won't co-operate. I had to have someone look after DD between feeds as she also had reflux and would constantly scream and I couldn't ever get her to stop so I was stressed to my eyeballs. After a few times when she got better at feeding etc, I calmed down and that also made it easier.
I hope it gets easier for you soon.
05-03-2012 19:23 #5Senior Member
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I agree with the nipple shields idea. My DD was 2.6kgs and couldn't feed (flat nipples plus her mouth was too little) and started losing weight. I rang the helpline and they were great but I couldn't ring them every night! On day 4 I was desperate and remembered my sister had given me nipple shields that she hadn't needed. I put one on and hey presto, my screaming baby was sucking away with no problems. I hope you find what works best for you x
06-03-2012 18:41 #6
Another long post ~ sorry!
Hi there, Do ring the ABA, find a good lact. consultant in your area if poss, ring the 1800 breastfeeding line number, or ask the online BF expert here in BHub.
It can be hard after bottle feeding to get them to latch, but it's def. not too late! He's only a week old, so will adjust easily and indeed, nipple shields may help get him back on the boob now he's getting used to a teat. Try offering bottle top-ups only after giving BF'ing a go, and if you can't get him on the breast, just keep offering it, and do express after feeding, whether boob or bot, to up your supply.
If he's a 'Lazy feeder', try feet-tickling to wake him up, massaging his hand as he feeds to stimulate sucking reflex, and dressing him cooly/unwrapping him to help stop him falling asleep at the boob/bot. My friends bub was labelled a 'Lazy feeder', but with persistence, she got there with BF'ing and he 'grow out of it' as he got more experience and she got used to BF'ing.
I had same prob as you re supply. Your milk may still be coming in, so as much breast contact as well as BF'ing will help up your supply, and once you are through the transitional milk stage 3-10d approx), your supply will increase markedly. If not, give some Fenugreek tabs, or as a last resort, Motilium tablets a try.
On the attachment issues, a consult with a lac expert is the way to go. If this is not poss, here's a few tips I've gleaned from my experience and training as a lac consult (i'm still in process of learning and always will be!):
Watch his feeding cues, as you'll have less success if he's not really hungry, or is tired. Watch for that open-mouthed rooting refex. Sit in comfy chair with your feet on a low stool, lean back and RELAX!
Some bubs do self-attach, others make you work for it. To attach your bub, tickle his top lip with the nipple. When he opens wide, have the nipple prepared and lift bub to nipple, not nipple to bub. To prepare nipple, hold in between thumb and forefinger with thumb on top, finger under neath, with your fingers running parallel to bubs lips. When his mouth is fully open wide, flick the nipple into his mouth (this action takes practice ~ your thumb pushes down on the areola, bottom finger is on bub's bottom lip, and nipple moves down and away from you into bub's mouth. Hope I've described this ok), so that he has a good mouthful of areola. Most of it should be in his mouth for good flow and optimal comfort. Try expressing a little onto his lips to get his interest, and expressing a little generally first to soften the areola and get the flow going.
The answer may be as simple as trying a few diff possies for bub and you, ie, football hold, cradle hold (google them), upright feeding or lying down and feeding.
There's really no substitute for a face to face consult with Lact. specialist, but I hope something here may help. Good luck and do persevere, you'll get there in the end and it is a steep learning curve for both of you.
06-03-2012 19:19 #7
I just wanted to say good on you for keeping at it! My son had a tongue-tie and was delivered via Ceaser, so my milk didn't come in until day 7. It is so stressful dealing with feeding issues on top of hormones and adjusting to the new arrival. I agree that calling the ABA is a great place to start, they should be able to offer advice and recommend a lactation consultant to give you a hand.
With my son, I just expressed every 2 hours until finally I was getting decent amounts of milk, and put him on the boob every three hours. He would fuss and end up asleep, but I'd wake him up until he'd had a good go before topping up with EBM. It can take a while, but is well worth the effort!
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