I should also say that anyone who is genuinely interested in the evidence for evolution should read 'Why Evolution Is True' by Jerry Coyne. It's a very accessible, easy to read summary of why evolution is a fact.
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04-03-2012 20:01 #91Senior Member
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04-03-2012 20:08 #92
I believe it Creation. A literal 6 day (each day being 24 hours) creation.
This website explains what I believe and is good if you are wanting to know where what literal creationists like myself believe, and why.
04-03-2012 20:41 #93Chico: ‘You know, my whole family was a-sailors. My father was a-partners with Columbus.’
Groucho: ‘Columbus has been dead four hundred years!’
Chico: (Pause) ‘Well, they told me it was my father.’
Marx Brothers fans loved ridiculous lines like that. They may not have been overly funny, but their wackiness gained them fans over several generations.
Let’s apply that Monkey Business theme to the creation–evolution issue.
Person A: ‘You know, my whole family was once ape-like creatures. My ancestors were small chimp-like animals called autralopithecines, which have been found as fossils.’
Person B: ‘But there are no fossils to prove that australopithecines evolved into humans.’
Person A: ‘Well, they told me they were my ancestors.’
Many people would see the first dialogue as humorously ridiculous, but would dismiss the second as simplistic or even wrong.
THIS is used as argument AGAINST evolution on that site!
and THIS just shows that 'creationists' still don't 'get it'.
Australopithecines did NOT evolve directly 'into' humans [as we now them].
They didn't 'become' humans.
but they are related.
04-03-2012 20:49 #94
And with that, I am respectfully bowing out of this thread. Not that you've been rude but I have had my beliefs ridiculed time and time again on similar threads online and IRL and I just don't want to go there again so I probably shouldn't have said anything.
If you read a little more on that site, you might get a bigger picture of what people like me believe regarding creation and a young earth.
04-03-2012 21:00 #95Guest Guest
Cultivating food has only been around since The Agricultural Revolution. before that man was nomadic. there are still nomadic tribes around today.
The neolithic revolution said 10-7000 BC and was scattered, however the earliest I posted was 14500BC in the middle east (this is the earliest evidence they have found so far, it could have been even before that) But yeah, I don't know what the original point is or what your trying to say going back to my first post?
In my first post I mentioned that genesis could have been written at a time where agriculture was taking place and mans evolution ie. Adam, taking place from then. We're talking 14500BC and possibly earlier. My sugesstion is Adam is the metaphor for modern man, before that Genesis said he created man in Gods likeness, but Adam came after this is Genesis 2 and it says Adam was created to cultivate the land. So to me this is talking about modern man. I believe once we started cultivating land we evolved to what we are today.
Feeling of shame. Yes perhaps God is saying you never need to feel shame, or you never needed to, God asked "who taught you you are naked" hence the metaphor with Eve and the serpent. This could also mean our minds evolving, something so simple "who taught you to know you are naked"? I think is an interesting thing to think about, how did our minds evolve to know we are naked? Is this the thing that seperated us from previous beings to become modern man?
The people who are still nomads I don't really know what they feel or know, but assuming they don't feel shame and can walk completely naked, perhaps they are spared by the "serpent" tricking them. What is the metaphor for serpent??? Society???
This is not the only thing, genesis talks about alot of things that every woman on earth feels, labour pangs, bleeding etc. This was only a very small part.
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04-03-2012 21:18 #96
Lily - can I just clarify.
are you saying man existed before 'Adam'?
(sorry I thought you took the Bible literally - so you have confused me)
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04-03-2012 21:27 #98Guest Guest
Oh and yes, I think its possible man (modern man ie. Adam being the metaphor) evolved from what God created on the 6th day.
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04-03-2012 21:41 #100
I think the prehistoric dolphin was called something like eurhinodelphis? It's taken me all day to think of it. Sorry, as you were...
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