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29-02-2012 21:08 #81Senior Member
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29-02-2012 21:51 #84
Wow..... 9 pages about tying shoelaces. Lol.
I haven't read it all (sorry!), but I am a prep teacher (5 year olds). Not many children can tie their shoelaces at this age - no matter how well trained they are, the skills needed generally develop around grade 1. I have tied MANY a shoelace in my day. They are often wet, grimy and disgusting. I keep hand sanitiser with me, and try not to think about what is actually on them. Usually I have one smarty pants who knows how to tie shoelaces by about the middle of the year, so I send children to them and ask the child if they would like to tie up the shoelaces for them (I don't force them to tie shoelaces if they don't want to! But they are always very willing and proud to show off their skills.)
I have only once refused to tie a child's shoelaces.... it was a little boy who would come to me and ask me to tie his laces, and then would sit there undoing them again. As soon as he had them undone (within 5 minutes), he would come and ask me to tie them again, only to undo them straight away again. I told him that I did not have time to play these games with him, and if he wanted to untie his shoelaces purposely, I would leave them undone for him. That was really an issue of his behaviour rather than shoelaces just coming undone on their own. He very soon learned to leave them done up.
29-02-2012 21:52 #85-
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Honestly. Shoe laces? Unbelievable.
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29-02-2012 21:54 #86
And I'm sorry to digress, but it is NOT a school teacher's job to wipe snotty noses. Child care, yes. Pre-school - maybe. School - no way. 5+ year olds need to be taught how to wipe and blow their own noses. I used to tell the parents that this is one of the things that they need to teach their child before they get to school. It is not hard to teach your 5 year old how to blow their own nose, and is a basic life skill that they need to know before they start school. The only children I've EVER had struggle with this is children with special needs, in which case, I will assist them.
29-02-2012 22:04 #87
I was likening the nose blowing to grotty laces. Really just an example of how ridiculous the things are teachers do.
And my job? That's why I get paid and I don't deserve a medal for teaching your kid to read. Maybe not. But I do teach 25+ children every day for more than six hours. They are safe, protected and usually happy and learning After school I mark and plan lessons. Sometimes I go to kids events. Like last year I watched one of my students compete in a dog show! Not part of my job but because I love what I do that's what I do. But do I tie shoe laces. Never !!
Stop with the teacher bashing. It's a tough job and usually the ones who knock us wouldn't last five minutes in the classroom... Or on an excursion or on a camp.
Okay... I've ranted enough now. Sorry.
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29-02-2012 22:04 #88
The kids had swimmimg today. Back at school, nearly every child in Prep, about half the kids in year 1, and a few in years 2 and 3 needed help with their shoes. The teachers, aides, parents, other kids all gave assistance without hesitation. I really like our school
29-02-2012 22:11 #89Senior Member
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Are you sick of high paid teachers? Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - baby sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.
That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM
with 45 min. off for lunch and plan — that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.
Now how many do they teach in day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET’S SEE…. That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 peryear. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children
X 180 days = $280,800 per year.
Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher’s salary (nation wide) is $60,000. $60,000/180 days = $333.34/per day/22 students= $15.16/6.5 hours = $2.33 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)
AND on top of that you want them to start teaching basic life skills that is a parents job
Please also remember, most teachers are parents too...
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29-02-2012 22:19 #90
I havent read the entire thread but i had a quiet word with my 4yr old teacher with how he needed assistance with his shorts when he goes to the toilet as he has a bit of trouble with them. She and the aid were both more than happy to help out with that.
We are using velcro shoes currently but next year going onto laces and i hope by having a quiet word with the teacher if he hasnt got it down pat, that little bit of help given will give my child the confidence he can ask for help if needed with anything from school work to even bullying if and when that happens.
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