Will do tezzy. Have to admit I am feeling a bit deflated after reading a few of these comments. Hope I'm not wasting my time tomorrow. Really hope they don't have a 'one size fits all' solution because as we know, this isn't going to work for most patients. DH booked the appointment and apparently it takes 3hrs! Wtf?! I hope it's not a huge waste of time...that's 3hrs toddler-free that I don't get often!
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16-02-2012 21:58 #11
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17-02-2012 10:53 #12
Just got back from the appointment. I don't think it's for us. If you've already done ivf and are a 'hard case' probably isn't for you either. Their epu days are scheduled as a pp said. The nurse couldn't advise how this would fit in with my pcos and needing to stim longer. They aren't keen on high dose fsh so aiming at only 6 eggs at a time. I explained that my first cycle I hyperstimulated but I got a few good eggs which resulted in my DD. Last time not so many eggs and bad quality. They were unsure if my circumstances would fit into their protocol and I would have to wait til march to speak to a dr. As pp said, nurses do alot of the scans, bloods etc. another interesting point is they aren't too keen on freezing embies and she basically said the cost of freezing isn't included so if there were embies to freeze this would bring the cost up close to Qfg's?!
On a plus side, they have 6 drs which are from Qfg and still practice there, they just visit the new clinic when required.
As far as ET goes, they put back on day 2 or 3 only. No blastocysts because the culture is more expensive.
My advice to anyone considering them, is if you have a relatively easy case (ie just male factor and need icsi) or its your very first cycle, give them a go before the more expensive clinics.
17-02-2012 13:08 #13
Sounds like a "cut price" budget place isn't it? Hmmm.....It sounds like they're an off shoot of QFG, trying to make more money?!!!!
17-02-2012 14:00 #14
Yeah it does sounds cut price. I was a bit annoyed because we were told the appt would take 3hrs and we were out in 1hr. They were still willing to take us but said it might take a few goes to get it right. I'd rather stay with Wazza and use all his 'tricks' but might have to wait a couple of months.
The other thing is like pp said you are only sedated so no anthesthetic to put you to sleep. Which is the other reason why they only want a few eggs, so your not lying on a table feeling all the pulls and jabs for too long.
Maybe they have caught wind that patients are flying down to wfc for cut price treatment and wanted to get in on the market up here? Don't get me wrong, I am happy there is a cheaper option for patients who wouldn't otherwise be able to afford it. You also don't need phi because they arent using anesthetic so it's not considered an operation...
I guess I just feel a little bit ripped off taking a day off work to visit this clinic when I could have gone to see Wazza instead for our "plan b" chat. Oh well...
17-02-2012 15:25 #15
I think on their website they say they are a subsidiary of QFG. On their success rate page they refer to QFG as their 'parent clinic'. They appear to also use the success rates of QFG on their page which I feel is a lot misleading to anyone to who looks at the website.
It is great that they are offering this service, especially to those couples that might not ever have the opportunity to d IVF because of the cost, but they really do seem to only be offering a budget service.
18-02-2012 06:07 #16
Mmmmm sorry it's not right for you Nicole..... Doesn't sound like it is going to be right for me either. I need A LOT of puregon to even get 2-3 follies just for IUI so if they don't like using to much stimulants then I'm our already!
I'm with QFG anyway so might just keep seeing old Shaney Boy..... Was just a bit excited because this place is literally 5 mins from my house instead of the hours drive to Wickham Tce
18-02-2012 15:40 #17
Just wanted to say how our appointment went. I feel a little bit the same as you Nicole....wondering whether it would still work out nearly the same price to stay with Wazza and utilise his regime/tricks? Can anyone shed some light on their fees (QFG), Wazza said ICSI full cycle out of pocket was around $4500 but the nurse who went through the fees said it was $7500? We dont have PHI but i thought once it goes over the saftey net it would be around $4500? Its confusing. The problem is the fertility centre charges $1500 to feeze any remaining embryos so that brings it up around the $3k mark. I have low AMH so if there was the possiblilty of freezing embryos of course we would want to. They were very inflexible with appointments ie Drs will only see you in the morning. I am starting a new job and its going to be very hard to juggle. They also put me on the pill to control the cucle which I have never done at any previous IVF. They are very nice and helpful though so we are going to use them for a few rounds and then back to wazza if it doesnt work out. Egg pick ups are only done on Tues and Thurs and only for a day so thats only 8 egg pick ups a week and I gather a lot of people are going to want to take advantage of the low costs of this clinic. The nurse did say that the EPU will feel like a smear but you can have gas if in discomfort
20-02-2012 09:50 #18
20-02-2012 22:40 #19
Thanks girls for the info. Not sure if it's the right thing for us either. We are pretty straight forward though. I stimulate well with no problems, DH issues are very low sperm counts, poor morphology and poor motility. We were told for us it's only a numbers game. Since being with Dr. Dunphy he has put me on Luveris as well, still not sure if it has made a difference to embryo quality, but it is costly at $181 an injection, so times that by 12 it is very expensive. Part of me says I would be willing to give this clinic a go, see how we go without the Luveris, but if they are only doing day 2 and 3 transfers there is a more likely chance you will have more excess embryo's to freeze. If they are charging and extra $1500 to freeze it hardly seems worth it. You would be nearly $3000 out of pocket anyway. My history of embyro's my worst looking embies on D3 have been my stella performers and are the ones that have become blastocysts. DD and her twin were a 6 and 7 cell on D3 with some fragmentation. Had 2 perfect 8 cell embies on D3 with no fragmentation what so ever and only one of those become a blastocyst and that embie became a chemical pregnancy. I suppose what I am trying to say is that you would be reluctant to throw any of your excess embies away when it's likely that one of them could possible produce a baby.
Anyway I am hoping I won't need to look into any further as I am PUPO with a blastocyst and morula, but just getting myself prepared for the worse as I have no frosties.
21-02-2012 05:44 #20
They weren't for us either.with my low AMH they said i may get no eggs and it would cost the same, but more importantly, your BMI has to be under 35 for their protocol - which mine isn't at all.
Hope you guys who use them get good results.
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