So I believe when someone commits suicide they were in pain and believe ending their life is the right thing to do. They may be lonely, feel detached from their life, family and friends, feel empty or not feel much at all, their desire for life is gone and they don't see anything beyond the horizon.
I only wish if my children ever feel that way they talk to me about it
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Those that do are selfish and deserve the worst.
It shows they were weak willed but I feel sorry for them.
Everyone can only handle so much before they snap. There is no shame in that.
None of the above. GFP, you make lousy poll questions
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14-02-2012 19:27 #22-
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I think that people can only take so much.
I think peoples brains are like peoples bodies.
Some of us are strong and easily put on muscle and carry heavy weight.
Some of us try but the weight hurts and puts too much pressure on their bodies.
Brains are the same. Some people can cope with thing better than others.
It s so sad when a family is left behind but I think suicide is a last resort for a very unwell person and in their mind, they are doing the best thing for everyone.
14-02-2012 19:47 #23
My best friends father killed himself last year while at home with his partner. She was on the phone as he walked past her into the backyard and a couple of minutes later she found him. She tried to save him and called an ambulance, they kept his body alive but it was too late for his brain so they had to make the heartwrenching decision to turn off his life support.
He was one of the strongest and most cheerful men I have ever known and his death shattered his daughter and the rest of his family.
He had been very unwell for months and months and doctors could not find a reason and so could not find a cure. He had lost about 40kg in the 6 months preceding his death and was unable to work, complete CFA duties or keep up with his beloved granddaughter.. He was barely surviving and his life was empty because he could not do any of the things he loved, or even remotely enjoyed.
I always felt suicide was the most selfish thing a person could do... Now all I have is a feeling of sorrow that people can get to such a helpless stage in life that they feel there is no other option.
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14-02-2012 19:55 #24
I chose the 3rd option.
Though I do think there's shame in suicide, though more the shame of society for not doing more to prevent people getting to the stage where it's a serious consideration of an individual. Not the shameful for the person or their family necessarily (though yes, shameful if their families knew there was a struggle but brushed it off and ignored it).
14-02-2012 19:57 #25Senior Member
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I'm afraid I dont like your poll options. There can be different motivations for suicide and I dont believe they can all be thrown in the same basket.
A) Someone can be selfish and perhaps even trying to punish someone else - whom they put the blame upon.
B) Someone can be (in their mind) being selfless. They have such a low self esteem that they think they are doing everyone else a favour by leaving them alone.
C) It can be done due to a sense of futility or failure. Someone feels they have no purpose left in life so might as well end it now.
D) It can be done as an assertive act. Perhaps someone feels they have lost control of everything else, so this is the only way they can take control back. I would also include honourable suicides (regaining face) in this category also.
14-02-2012 21:01 #26
A very close friend of mine attempted suicide. He said he never understood the accusation of it being selfish. For him, he thought no one would miss him, no one needed him, no one truly loved him, and he had nothing to offer so how could it be selfish to die? In his mind he felt completely worthless and hopeless and honestly thought no one would be sad. There was no point living.
That broke my heart to hear, and I would never, ever again think of it as a selfish act. I don't see it as weak or strong, but unbelievably sad. A sadness as deep and dark and unfathomable as a black hole. And I believe there are many different things that can bring someone to that black hole.
My friend is one of the most amazing people I know. Funny, smart, bright, full of joy and fun. Thoroughly lovable and loved. I thank god that he didn't stay in that dark place and wish I could help each and every person who's ever felt like falling in and never coming back out. Depression truly does not discriminate.
14-02-2012 21:37 #27
I can't poll as I'm
On my phone, I have not read the other answers yet, but I believe that the person must be in serious pain to take their life, and we do not understand that pain.
I am saddened that this happens in our society but it's ultimately I feel up to each individual
I have always had many ppl around me with depression and therefore think I see it a little bit through their eyes that sometimes its too painful being alive
A desperately hard thing to talk about too
14-02-2012 21:47 #28
Gosh beryls mum said it really well
14-02-2012 21:48 #29
I also think there are many other reasons aswell (like mental illness, terminal illness, drug/alcohol depression etc). Its such a sad situation.
There are MANY factors why people turn to suicide as their only and final option. It does not determine their strength as a human being just the situation they find themselves in at that very moment.
14-02-2012 22:05 #30
I really dislike the word *selfish* when used in the context of suicide. For someone to be in such a dark place in their life to contemplate suicide, they likely think that others would be better off without them or are feeling so invisible that they feel their absence would have no impact. It is a fairly short sighted act, but that is all that someone in that space is capable at that time. My feeling on suicide is that in a world of 6 billion people, it is a tragedy that anyone should have to feel so alone that suicide is their only option.
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