I honestly can't believe people are defending using guns to discipline children. This is ludicrous.
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12-02-2012 16:02 #111-
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12-02-2012 16:18 #112
Children DO have unequal brain functioning, as do teenagers. Ask any doctor you know. Or better yet, ask your toddler. There is a reason people are not considered an adult until they are over 18 and have fewer priviledges until then.
I didn't say anyone is less human. I said multiple times (in the rest of the post you partially quoted and in my other posts) that I don't think punishing misbehaviour is treating someone as less human.
Children are less mature and need more guidence as to appropriate behaviour. I believe punishing inappropriate behaviour is an acceptable way to guide behaviour and does not dehumanise someone or damage them in any way. Please show me some research that says that taking a childs laptop when it has been used inappropriately is going to psychologically damage them and I might change my mind.
Your manipulation of my statement, and inferred attack on my character, is highly offensive.
12-02-2012 16:24 #113
You know, I don't really care if people think shooting it is OTT or it's wonderful or whatever... to me, it's not exactly the biggest deal.
What does strike me as interesting though, is the arguement about his property VS her property... etc.
As a mother, I went and took all of DDs unused My Little Ponies and sold them. All of them. They sat there, unplayed with, taking up a lot of space (she had LOTS of them... lol). I did it behind her back, because I knew she would complain and whinge and nag me to keep them otherwise. Not because she was going to use them, just because she likes to collect every single thing she can and never get rid of it. I have a fear we'll see her on Hoarders as an adult. lol. (kinda joking, kinda not).
ANYWAY... was that wrong of me? Going by some responses here, because these items were gifted to her, by either others or myself, they are hers and I have no right to touch them, basically.
Does it depend on the age of the child as to when getting rid of their stuff is okay? Does it depend on their opinion of it? Does it depend on what the item is?
TBH, I think everything a parent gets for their kids, with their own money, while their child is still a child (under 18)... is more "ON LEASE" to the child, rather than belonging to the child. If I get my daughter a computer and she spends her time taking half-nude photos and posting her tits all over hte internet and I find out about it - I will have no issues in taking that property from her. I won't consider it "stealing" something that belongs to her... I'd consider it my duty to remove that computer from her grasp to protect her. Couldn't care less if she considering theft of her property or not.
I dunno, I just find that whole idea strange... when I was a teen I knew that all the things in my room that had been purchased by my parents was THEIRS not MINE. I knew they could take it away whenever they wanted to. Of course, my mother had no interest in taking any of these things away, and told me I could take everything in my bedroom with me when I left home... but I didn't expect to simply own these objects...
12-02-2012 16:32 #114
However, that's actually all besides the point. What this man did was not punishment - it was public humiliation. It wasn't boundary setting - it was tantrum throwing. He did not intent to teach her a lesson, he intended to hurt her in the exact manner and fashion that he had himself been hurt by her. She modelled his behaviour - exactly - and then was punished for behaving in the exact way which she had been taught to behave - by the person who had taught her to behave that way.
How is it that a child can know what 'respectful behaviour' is if they've never had somebody behave respectfully toward them?
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12-02-2012 16:32 #115
he is her father, her parent. not her bff.
his job is to parent.
if it was a car he had bought her and she drove in a manner he did not agree with, it would be taken away. if it was a phone and she used it to harass or bully other people, it would be taken away.
we may not all agree with the method in which it was done, but it was property paid for by him that was misused and taken away.
and i think the personal attacks on one of the posters here is downright disgraceful.
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12-02-2012 16:38 #116
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12-02-2012 16:46 #118
Totally agree 5 in the bed. It's one thing to confiscate something, it is another thing entirely to shoot it. It's such an incredibly violent act.
12-02-2012 16:51 #119-
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12-02-2012 16:57 #120
If DH and I had a fight and he took my new eternity ring he bought me and crushed it, saying he bought it for me I'd be absolutely disgusted with him... and the age of the giftee makes no difference. If you buy something for someone as a gift/to help with their schooling/to show them you love them, you don't have a right to take it back bc you are angry. The whole idea of a gift is something you give to someone else.
as to the idea that a wife/husband set up is different to a child/parent set up. I typed out a response very similar to yours Tam. A child, given they have less impulse control, hindsight and developed brain function is *more* reason to deal gently with them. But I didn't hit reply as I knew it would be construed as picking on people and attacking their opinions, which I'm not. Just wanting to explain why I see my example of the husband shooting up his wife's computer for venting on FB or a forum as the same as this. But since you said it for me, I'll just agree lol
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