Don't know how I missed this but thank you and that's the point I have made lots on here about the rich 'struggling' when really it's about choosing high levels of debt for a lifestyle. Don't get me wrong, absolutely nothing wrong with that. None of my business. But that's not struggling, and people can't expect hand outs on high incomes bc they *choose* huge mortgages.
Your post has restored my faith that there are higher income people out there that actually appreciate how lucky they are
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10-02-2012 15:08 #51
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Would I spend 20k a year on school fees just for the good sporting ovals or pristine school grounds? It makes no difference. You see, you don't have to be rich to have a good education in this country, if I could finsih school and get a degree with my dad being a factory worker, then yes, so can the children of low income earners.
40k a year is a very low income, infact I think its considered below the poverty line. The average wage is higher than that, and with both parents working you'd double that again. But once you have 2 parents working you start to get penalised and are called 'rich' and we should only consider very low income earners???? Makes no sense really. If you complain you're told to live within your means but then in the same sentence realise how expensive everything is, so $166k would be comfortable but it doesn't mean those people don't struggle with everyday costs.
But again, the real question is "WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO GO LABOUR"??????
10-02-2012 15:17 #53Senior Member
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Ahh the old "I did it, anyone can" bingo. Why can't the kids in the Northern Territory living in third world conditions just go out and get a better education
I haven't called two working parents rich at all, especially if they are both low income earners. Heck, DP and I earned an embarrassingly low income combined just 3 years ago. But I do consider $166k for a family to be more than enough to not need handouts. I agree with FearlessLeader - if you're earning that amount and can't afford an extra $1k for healthcare you're doing something wrong.
I do not believe in welfare to fund expensive cars, expensive homes, and whatever else people are wasting their money on. Heck, I *do* earn $40k myself and I set aside more than $1k p.a. from my own personal funds.
10-02-2012 15:18 #54Guest Guest
If every high income earner rented then their would be an even bigger divide in the classes where only the really rich could afford housing instead of everyday mums and dads. So abit of help to maintain it would benefit everyone!
10-02-2012 15:20 #55
I'm really mad about it tbh.
We already pay $255.00 per month and to add another $1000 a year will effect how much time we spend going away, doing things as a family etc. Not happy!!!
We need PHI in qld because quite honestly qld public health is very poor.
I hate that the government continues to make it really hard for the families busting their bums (and not entitled to anything from the government, or little) to live a life other then work. I am just so mad about it.
We work real hard, we aren't entitled to anything my husband works away 22days on 3 days off to give our kids a strong financial future. Why when we pay huge tax, huge medical fees, huge in everything and nothing comes back.
We were flooded last year and while all our neighbours got payout from the government we got literally next to nothing because my Dh earnt to much (half goes to tax) so we struggled while others didn't.
Sorry I have no respect or faith for the ridiculous government any more.
10-02-2012 15:20 #56
there is a big difference between 80k and 200k, and again saying how expensive everything is only strengthens the argument that a family like us on 45k really *are* struggling considering we have many of the same bills of someone on 5 times as much.
If we can budget and give our kids everything on 45k and be paying as much rent as a mortgage in our area we wouldn't have a care in the world on 166k.
I think people need to get some perspective, if you think you're struggling on 150k how do you think a single mother copes on 15?
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10-02-2012 15:25 #59
It's not fair to push so much financial burden on them either. They "choose" debt do they can be self sufficient. Because they know in a few decades time there will be no pension and few benefits because the government won't be able to afford it. So for security they live a life of struggle and maybe in hope to secure some future for their children.
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10-02-2012 15:26 #60Guest Guest
Higher income earners don't get that, and who are you to judge how a high income earner spends or lives and how much they can afford? You'resaying you're struggling on your income and you wouldn't with $166k it doesn't mean you wouldn't miss 2k a year? And its the principle of what this government is doing, because it doesn't target you it makes it ok? Why, how will the savings benefit you?
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