I'm sorry I have no advice as such because DH is fine in that department however I have PCOS so I went to a Chinese medicine man to help with my fertility. He gave me herbs mixed for me (each person has a different balance depending upon their issues etc) and acupuncture. We ended up conceiving on my fourth month with the treatment however that lead to a miscarry but then I got pg again the following month and our DS is now 12 mths old. Have you thought of trying alternative medicine in conjunction with what ever treatment the FS recommends. In regards to weight, I was over weight and lots 7kgs before I fell pregnant.
I wish you both all the luck in the world.
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30-03-2012 07:52 #11
30-03-2012 07:52 #12
It is varicose veins in his sperm cord.
Its Extremely easy to diagnose Varicocele (they just do an ultrasound) then if it's blocking sperm ect they can remove the veins.
Some times men can just have a low sperm count from it or no sperm count.
25-04-2012 07:13 #13
Hi fist post very new to this :-)
alohashellIVF - Thanks for your post felt like my husband and I where the only ones having to deal with zero sperm count. We only found out five days ago. We are totally devastated and just feel so lost. We have not told anyone yet thinking of keeping it to ourselves incase we use donor sperm don't need everyone to know.
How did your partner deal with the news ? I am 27 and my husband is 34 but we still feel like time is running out :-( .
We are going to see about IVF next week and if there is anything else they can do to try and find sperm. My husband was sick as a child and we think that's why he has a zero sperm count.
Just the start I know but feel very lost right now :-(
Thanks to everyone else for the useful information :-) best of luck to you all :-)
25-04-2012 07:30 #14
March2011 - from your brief description it sounds likely that your DH probably has Sertoli-only Syndrome, which means he no longer has the cells you need to make sperm. (My DH has this, possibly because a medical condition means he can't keep his testes cool enough for those cells to survive.)
But rule out things from easy to hard.
1. Get testosterone and FSH bloodwork. High FSH and low testosterone suggests body is not making much or any sperm. As I wrote in an earlier post, don't take testosterone supplements on GP advice. Only do it if your fertility specialist or andrologist says to.
2. Look for blockages stopping sperm getting out.
3. Needle biopsy of the testes to see if hit-or-miss approach catches sperm.
4. Microdissection of testes to hunt for sperm.
For #3 and #4 you would need to do IVF with ICSI.
As far as I know, if #4 fails, then it's on to donor sperm. I'm 15 wks pregnant with twins conceived using donor sperm. We're both thrilled.
25-04-2012 08:18 #15
Felicita- First of all congratulations sooo exciting twins. I would love to have twins.
Thanks so much for all the info we have a consultation with Monash IVF we where told they will do the biopsy there to see if they can find any sperm. He did have sperm tests in the past that came back very low 0.07 but first time he every got a zero test result. Dr did not give use much hope but she is not a specialist in that area.
As far as sperm donor goes I
am feel weird. I am mad I guess feel like I don't want a baby if we can't have one together. I know it's silly and will pass it's only early days. I feel for my DH cause he loves kids and wants one so bad. He is not that happy about using a sperm donor. Is it easy to find one that looks like your DH or is it slim pickings ?
I also have PCOS did you have any health problems or just your DH ?
25-04-2012 09:25 #16Senior Member
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Hi girls - my DH and I have male factor infertility also. DH has a count of only half a million per ml, so our only option would be sperm donation. I am 36 and he is 42, so we feel we are running out of time to have a child together.
Are there any success stories with donations here? We aren't even sure where to start looking - we would have a home donor and AI. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
25-04-2012 09:48 #17
March2011 - As far as we knew I had no fertility issues. We were only doing IVF for MFI. After 2 failed transfers I was put through a heap of tests and have since been on an NK cell protocol for IVF. We also accumulated some circumstantial evidence during our last two cycles that my eggs need assisted hatching. We only got that evidence by doing the assisted hatching.
Waiting lists for anonymous donor sperm at IVFA (and presumably QFG and MIVF) have shortened recently as they have gained access to some US donors. I think it's now just a month or two before you can start looking at donor profiles, but I don't really know. Genea/SIVF don't do anonymous donor at all. I don't know about any other clinics.
I'll now go and find a post I made on another forum when someone asked about our journey towards using anonymous donor. I was going to PM you, but I think you need to make 10 posts before you have access to PMs, so you can't receive it. So I'll copy and paste into this thread instead.
From our first IVF appointment to our BFP was 3 years. A fair bit of that time was waiting for sperm. One benefit of doing donor sperm through IVF is the health checks of the donor and quarantine of the sperm just in case the donor caught something right before donating. They have to pass a health check before donating and again 6 months after the samples were frozen to know that they're safe.
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25-04-2012 09:53 #18
When we first found out DH had no sperm we were not ready for anonymous donor. We entered the waiting list anyway, figuring we would probably be OK with it by the time we got to the top of the list (at the time the wait was predicted to be one year).
DH wanted to try to find a related donor first. He felt an affinity for one of his cousins, so we asked him if he would consider being a donor. We did not push him for an answer, because not only is it hard to ask someone, it's also hard to give an answer. Eventually (about 4-5 months) the cousin decided he could not emotionally detach himself from his sperm so he could not donate.
By then we had grown comfortable with the idea of asking DH's father to donate. The inlaws had considered it earlier without us asking but believed that a vasectomy meant they couldn't. Upon us telling them that wasn't a massive problem they had to reconsider it in the new light of it being possible. It didn't take them long to decide yes, even though FIL would have to go through surgical sperm extraction.
While FIL's samples were in 6 month quarantine we got to the top of the anonymous list. We put our anonymous application on hold and remained quietly at the top of the list while we tried the related sperm first. Unfortunately the related sperm was poor quality and those cycles were unsuccessful. We decided after the first hi-mag cycle that we wouldn't be asking FIL to donate again, but we still would give the remaining sperm every possible chance to work. We didn't want to use sperm from any of DH's other relations - either DH didn't feel so close to them, or they carried genes that had been bred out of DH that he didn't want to reintroduce. So immediately upon getting the last related BFN we reactivated our anonymous donor application.
We went into viewing the profiles (and our related selections too) with the following attitude. DH was seeking someone to donate sperm to him. Then it would be DH's sperm (just like with the donation of any other tissue). So it was really up to DH to choose a profile that suited or matched with him. I had a right of veto. Naturally we supported each other too.
We were given 4 pdf profiles to start with. All were for ICSI only. We figure that was due to low numbers caused by IVFA stretching each donor to as many recipients as possible (4 families, multiple attempts, +siblings), rather than dud quality - because it would just be mean to offer bad sperm from the donor program. We found our perfect match in the 4 profiles we saw, so within a week of the BFN we were ready to meet with FS to plan our next cycle. I didn't feel any need to veto anything. Even though donor choice wasn't my "responsibility", the profile DH chose had some particular criteria that I was hoping for, which were in some cases irrelevant to DH's decision making criteria. We don't feel like we've "settled" for anything. The donor is a perfect match for us.
It's a bit of a businesslike perspective, needing to consciously decide what traits you want in the donor. Be honest with your choices. Own them and be proud of them. One of DH's requirements was that for unrelated sperm the donor must have blue eyes (we both have blue eyes, I didn't care about eye colour). Choosing sperm is not begging. It's NOT a case of "beggars can't be choosers. It's about finding the right match for you as a couple. Other organ donations also have to be matched to their recipients - although in those cases it's for immunological reasons, but still the situations are not really so different.
Unless IVFA policy has changed, you are allowed 3 fresh attempts with anonymous before having to pay to go back to the bottom of the list. After our first anonymous cycle didn't work any better than the related ones (still didn't make any blastocysts) I got extremely depressed. After 2 wks of crying - which started at ET when the scientist revealed that there were still no blasties for us - I saw my GP and commenced 4-6 months of antidepressants to help me deal with the expected duration of grieving for forever being childless. (Turns out now that the grief was premature, but it was real, and still makes me cry to remember it.)
Even though we love our FS and think he was correct and proactive with our treatment, we made him get many additional opinions to get the most of our remaining 2 cycles. This resulted in my being transferred to a different FS for the last cycle which worked.
As we'd had similarly bad results from using different sperm we were strongly advised that our last cycle should be the final attempt with my eggs, so we were also preparing for double donation from using SIL and my brother. Even though brown eyes were on the cards, DH did not have an issue with that if there was a genetic relationship with the child. We were not prepared to go through the expense and rollercoaster of doing a cycle from scratch if we weren't genetically related. We were also preparing to enter the donor embryo waiting list (was told to expect 3-5 years wait or more).
So that's the story of our decision to go down the donor sperm route. If you want any points fleshed out some more just ask away and expect another long reply.
Oh, and "So that's where I came from" ISBN 9781742031019 is a facts of life book for kids which treats ART and gamete donation in a way that doesn't make a big deal about it, but encourages acceptance of all sorts of different families.
25-04-2012 10:00 #19
25-04-2012 10:50 #20
OMG thank you so much so great to hear all that from you. The fact that you have two babies on the way gives me so much hope.
We have not really talked about finding a sperm donor from my DH family he has no brothers that would make things to easy lol. I did think if my eggs are no good we could use his sister and one of my brothers as I don't have a sister :-( .
I am finding it hard to know if we should not tell anyone and just use anonymous sperm to save the feeling of my DH. So much to think and talk about. So far to go yet just having this chat has made me feel a million times better. I cried pretty much all last weekend both of us did on and off.
We have decided Monday is a new beginning for us no more feeling depressed siting around the house. Time to Start eating healthy again and back to the gym for both of us.
Thanks soooo much for the help it's a lot to take in xxxx
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