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    Default Vaccine Ingredients interesting read

    Interesting read for those interested

    http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/ingredie.html
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    Default Misunderstood vaccine "ingredients"

    There is much confusion about vaccine ingredients/contents, and this is a good a time as any for an explanation, I suppose.

    The chemicals and compounds used in vaccines are there because they have to be, either to make the vaccines safer or to make them work. It's true that some of them are dangerous at high levels, but it's important to say that there is (almost) nothing that isn't dangerous at high doses, including products we consume every day. It is the dose that makes the poison. Almost everything around us is safe at certain levels and dangerous at others. The caffeine in your coffee, the citric acid in your oranges, the cyanide in apple seeds.

    Drinking a single cup of tea/coffee puts you hundreds of times closer to the fatal dose of caffeine, than any vaccine ingredient puts you to the fatal dose of that ingredient.

    As for the some of the specific vaccine "ingredients" mentioned on the link: (If you want any others, reply and I'll post the story behind it)

    Formaldehyde:
    A misunderstood ingredient. Formaldehyde occurs naturally in the body, it is a by product of human metabolism and used in the synthesis (combining of two or more entities to form something new) of DNA and amino acids. It is used in vaccines to detoxify the virus/bacteria to create a ‘dead vaccine’. The vaccine is purified to remove the formaldehyde, however minute traces can remain so for safety reasons it is listed as an ingredient in the final vaccine product. The amount of minute traces is considered well below what the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) consider to be the maximum limit to be used. The type in vaccines is not the type used on dead bodies!
    http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-...maldehyde.html
    http://www.formaldehyde.org/applications
    http://www.formaldehyde.org/health_safety
    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm187810.htm
    http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/pdf/hfile50d.pdf
    http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/...isconceptions/

    Thiomersal (ethylmercury):
    This is a preservative that is no longer used in any childhood vaccines available in Australia. It was removed 10 years ago as a precaution, but since that time studies have found it cause no ill-effects. It is still contained in adult multi-dose vials such as pandemic flu shots.

    Thiomersal is used as a preservative. Antivax sites talk about how mercury is toxic and should never be used, however there are several types of mercury. There is METHYL-mercury which is found in fish and stays in your body for many months (accumulates), and ETHYL-mercury which was used in vaccines and is excreted out of the body generally around 9 days- it doesn’t get a chance to accumulate to toxic levels.
    http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/to.../questions/en/
    http://ncirs.edu.au/immunisation/fac...fact-sheet.pdf
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Con...sal/index.html
    http://www.immunize.org/thimerosal/
    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm096228.htm
    http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-...himerosal.html

    Aluminium Hydroxide/Phosphate/Hydroxyphosphate sulphate:
    This is used in order to improve the response of the body to the vaccine. It helps keep the antigens (the virus/bacteria in the vaccine) close to the injection site so that the immune response cells can access them more easily, in order to build/create the appropriate antibodies. Using Aluminium means that we can use fewer antigens (virus/bacteria) and need less booster shots.

    Aluminium is found virtually everywhere, it is a natural element, it is found in food, water, air, and even breast milk! A child receives many times more aluminium from breast milk than from vaccines.
    http://www.chop.edu/export/download/...r/aluminum.pdf
    http://www.parenting.com/article/Bab...or-Your-Baby/3
    http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-.../aluminum.html

    Antifreeze:
    This is not (and never has been) and ingredient in vaccines. The myth emerged from a confusion between Ethylene Glycol (antifreeze) and Phenoxyethanol which to a layperson may seem chemically similar.

    Phenoxyethanol: It is a bactericide also known as 2-phenoxyethanol. This is an alcohol which is used as a preservative in vaccines and an alternative to thiomersal, it prevents outside bacteria from contaminating the vaccine, which could lead to serious illness and death.
    http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4180
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenoxyethanol

    Borax (Sodium Borate):
    Sodium Borate is the specific compound used only in the HPV vaccine. It adjusts the pH of the vaccine to bring it to a safe acidity/alkalinity to be injected into human muscle. Commonly called a ‘roach killer’ by many anti-vaccinationists, however they forget that many compounds have multiple uses at varying doses and when combined with other ‘ingredients’, Sodium Borate is commonly used in pharmaceuticals as an alkalising agent, used to treat vaginal infections and sometimes used as an antiseptic for small cuts.

    The LD50 (potentially lethal) dose of Borax for a child is 15-20 grams. The amount in the HPV vaccine is 35 micrograms, or 0.000035 grams. In other words, you would have to receive 500,000 doses of the vaccine to receive the potentially lethal dose.

    Methanol:
    There is no methanol in any vaccine used in Australia.

    Monosodium glutamate:
    Edible. Commonly found in chinese food and potato chips. Used as a stabilizer in vaccines in case of adverse conditions such as extreme heat or freezing cold. It is actually a salt of the amino acid glutamic acid and only has health effects in large amounts.
    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm187810.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

    Aborted human foetal tissue
    There is no such tissue in vaccines. It is true that the virus used to create the rubella vaccine is grown on human tissue derived from a cell line which was donated to medical science following a medical abortion in the 1960s, but there is none actually in the vaccines. Claiming otherwise would be like saying there is dirt in apples because the apple tree grows in soil.

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    Interesting info, what is your thought about these being injected rather than being ingested for eg. aluminum is in many foods including bm but injecting - will it ever leave the body and what will it do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kymmy View Post
    Interesting info, what is your thought about these being injected rather than being ingested for eg. aluminum is in many foods including bm but injecting - will it ever leave the body and what will it do?
    The route of administration can be a factor in the toxicity of the material. Some materials are more toxic when ingested than IM injected, and visa versa.

    Generally speaking, materials that enter via muscle tissue are excreted from the body. Whether this is faster or slower depends on how the material is processed by the digestive system (ie, whether it passes through the stomach or whether it is absorbed and subsequently distributed through the body before being excreted).

    FYI though, here's a study into the pharmacokinetics of IM Aluminium:
    "The in vitro dissolution and in vivo absorption studies indicate that aluminum-containing adjuvants which are administered intramuscularly are dissolved by α-hydroxycarboxylic acids in interstitial fluid, absorbed into the blood, distributed to tissues, and eliminated in the urine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by missie_mack View Post
    I'm a little disappointed Haztechdad. Whilst I don't always agree with your outcome I generally find your facts are pretty much on the mark.
    Fact is (according the eMJA- Australian Medical Journal) that as of 2005 some vaccines on the schedule still contained trace amounts- that being Energix B (Paed) which was being given to newborn babies. Ironically thiomersal was removed from the bulk of vaccines because of theories about the toxic effects of thiomersal on premmies and low weight newborns. I don't believe they have succeeded in totally removing thiomersal from this vaccine to date and those parents making the conscientious decision to avoid thiomersal at any level but are still wanting to vaccinate would need to do more research. At current I do believe the H-B Vax II (paed) is thiomersal free, but would suggest double checking either way.
    Technically you're right, yes. There was one brand (Energix B) of HepB-only vaccine that contained a trace amount of Thiomersal of up to 0.1 mcg (millionths of a gram) until 2007. However....
    • It has been totally thiomersal-free since June 2007.

    • With the exception of the NT, Energix B was not the funded vaccine in any Australian state or territory. Even in NT, it was only for the birth dose. HBVax II was/is funded everywhere else.

    • 0.1mcg is such a miniscule amount as to be almost undetectable. Not only would eating a Tuna sandwich deliver hundreds of times more mercury to the body, but in the form of accumulative methyl-mercury rather than quickly-excreted ethyl-mercury as was in Energix.

    • There are no properly conducted studies that show any adverse effect on children from thiomersal. To the contrary, there are numerous studies that have found no adverse effects. On empirical evidence alone, we can see that while in ~1999, children received (over their first year) a good 300mcg of thiomersal, which by 2001 had fallen to a worst-case of 0.1mcg. Yet there's no evidence for any change in the health outcomes of those children. Studies have found no association:
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...-2489.abstract
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...act/118/1/e139
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...full/112/3/604

    Those that pointed their finger at thiomersal in vaccines as a cause of everything from Autism to Cerebral Palsy have either been keeping quiet, or claiming that it's all a big conspiracy and all the vaccines still contain it.

    BTW, I have no issue with its removal as a precaution. As it turned out though, there was no issue.

    Incidently re the aborted human foetal tissue, whilst it is only replicated cells vaccines have been found to contain DNA. Interesting huh
    Yes, interesting. Got a ref for that? All I was aware of the Rotavirus vaccines which were found to contain fragments of DNA and RNA, but not whole DNA.

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