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08-12-2011 06:50 #11
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08-12-2011 07:07 #13
I can appreciate the articles posted. However what I see and know with my own two eyes can't be changed. China is still the biggest emitter and until that's changed then maybe I can believe their articles. Many of my friends and contacts within China would agree.
Definitely not saying that Australia is doing fabulous re climate change though. It's such a massive debate and I can't see how this new scheme will benefit us. Does anyone have any links to research that shows a scheme like this would be proven to work??
08-12-2011 07:56 #14
Sorry if I offended. I did mean most people i had met, not ALL people. My personal experience is wider than most though having travelled extensively and lived in four countries. But whatever.
In terms of China are they actually the biggest emitter per capita? Considering their population is over 1 billion or whatever it is, it is not surprising that they are the biggest emitter overall. Australia is minuscule population wise and I'm pretty sure it's per capita emissions must be above average thanks to mining and brown coal.
08-12-2011 08:03 #15
Much of my study for the last two years has been focused on China they are the biggest investor of green technology in the world and have succeeded in reducing their carbon emissions per capita last year (better than Australia), I don't have the figures on me though.
08-12-2011 08:36 #16
I think it's really hard to base carbon emissions using 'per capita'. Much of our emissions coming from mining are for overseas consumers. Just as some of the mining is owned by overseas investors. I think 'per capita' gives false statistics.
Also, I'm firmly in the camp of climate change happening, but regardless of the human race it is inevitable. It's been happening for millions of years. The climate cycles. The earth is a living entity, nothing we can do (or not do) can change that. The earth WILL continue to heat, another ice age will happen...and so it will continue.
08-12-2011 09:19 #17
You can laugh can call me an idiot all you want but humans are not going to save the planet nor are we to blame for global warming. The worlds climate is changing like it has done for millions of years. One volcano produces more then Australia for decades. Tax the volcanoses.
Saving the world is a billion dollar industry. Scare the life out of people tell them the world will end and it will be all your fault then slap them with paying more. They won't protest as much.
08-12-2011 09:49 #18
Yep, it's like terrorism a few years ago. Scaring people and then promising to have the solution is a great vote winner.
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08-12-2011 10:55 #19Senior Member
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Here is a graph that shows each countries change in CO2 emissions from 2008-2010.
It doesn't get more obvious than that.
Feel free to provide any data that you may have that shows a different figure to this. This comes from the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center.
08-12-2011 11:13 #20Senior Member
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Wow that "Watts Up With That" site is something else! Love the graph showing all these developed nations with their negative carbon emissions. You couldn't make this sh#t up....Oh that's right, that's exactly what they do. Off to find a graph which proves unequivocally that the earth is flat. I'm sure I can find one on the internet. Wouldn't want all that peer reviewed science giving us the wrong idea
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