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02-12-2011 13:27 #31
02-12-2011 13:54 #32
I dont usually join a political debate, but I can never recall a time when the politicians getting a pay rise was greeted with cheers?? The Independant tribunal was set up by the govt with the instructions to give us a pay rise when you see fit, and I do think it has been a while since they last took one, but I can not justify such an increase. I dont think the arguement is anything to do with his (Obama) Vs her (Gillard) wage, it is more to do with the size of the two countries, the population, and the general thinking that USA is always bigger better and wiser than Aus. (That is not my opinion!!! just the general feelings from the generations before me and some of my generation.) As for one persons comment, that the politicians can make more money outside of parliment, and that they have come to parliment because they want to do some good,, I would say there Might be one or two people that could be true, but the majority are just out for what they can get. And I refuse to start talking about Peter Slipper. ( May he rot in h*!! ) Marie.
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03-12-2011 15:28 #34
At least Australia is in a financial position whereby it can afford to pay it's leaders whereas America is living in incredibly dodgy times financially!
Although, I would love to have a higher income coming into our household - have to send DH to the mines next year to do that ...
03-12-2011 17:13 #35
Politicians get paid enough, and paying more won't do a thing to help get "better" people in parliament. It's not like you see a line of ex-politicians begging on street corners.
The reality is that the quality of our parliament is brought down by the party machines, not by the quality of the candidates themselves. The party system we have makes it almost impossible for independent and start-up party candidates to compete, which means that the appeasing the party elites is more important than being a great thinker or a capable manager. Until this changes, the quality of parliament won't.
The only way to change the quality of parliament is to change the way they are elected. Sorting out campaign funding and eliminating above-the-line voting would be a good start.
I wouldn't be too worried about Obama. His campaign spent more than a billion dollars to get him the job - they wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't worth it for him. Being elected in either country is basically a golden ticket - when their time is done, they'll have pensions, staffing, allowances, book deals, media deals, cushy corporate jobs etc.
They'll be just fine.
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03-12-2011 17:41 #39
IMO the pay rise is a good thing, because it aims to make politicians' remuneration more transparent. They lost benefits and were reimbursed with a pay rise. If you lost benefits at work that were part of your initial contract wouldn't you think it fair to be reimbursed?
Our PM's salary is still far behind MANY senior public servants, and peanuts compared to what she could earn if she took her qualifications to market as a lawyer.
As for Obama, his salary is the least of his actual remuneration. When he retires Obama will receive a hefty pension, Secret Service protection, and be reimbursed for his own private staff (among many other pricey perks).
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I don't see what Obama's wage has to do with anything relating to Australian politics. I have an issue with the amount of increase, especially when they are budget cutting and nurses are having trouble getting a pay rise. I couldn't give a cr@p what Obama gets. How irrelevant.
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