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    One of those days.
    I feel old. I feel like I am in overtime and the ref is about to blow the whistle, and I am screaming "NOOOO!!! I'm not done".
    I see the FS tomorrow. Debrief the failed BFP, plan for the FET. I am sure this is where the anxiety has stemmed from. Worry that my old eggs will fail me again and that my dream may never realise. Reflecting on just how much it means to me.
    Wondering how people will take the news even if my dreams come true. So many of my friends like to high 5 me and say how glad "we" are that nappies days are over and our kids have grown up. Meanwhile unknown to them I am praying my days start again as I follow my IVF dream. I know they will be shocked, and to be honest I think it may sort out my true friends.
    Thinking alot lately about when/how to tell people if it happens. With my history I want to wait as long as possible due to the risks. But then, there is a point when it all become unavoidable. It makes me sad to feel I must hide what would be that most fantastic news.

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    goldie... woohoo for starting your first cycle... I remember the scary OMG moments I had when I started... it was sort of exciting to be fullfilling a dream but terrifying to think that it was a journey alone... and one well worth it...xx

    fortitude... you will be fine... after all there will be a few of us old mummies... I figured that I will be pushing 50 when DD starts school... Ill probably be thought of as DDs grandmother..lol... I have had no judgements on myself starting so late from my friends whom had kids 10-15yrs ago but as you say it will sort out your real friends...and sometimes its good to have a good spring clean.

    lilwish..
    .. yay PUPO...toot.toot... grow little twinies grow...lol.. lets hope you get that bfp..!! this is your time.. my fingers are crossed

    tens... not long for you to start.. lets hope that you get some stickys...certainly your chances are pretty good...

    wanabb... how are those gorgeous twins growing?

    kenta...lets hope that your 2ww goes quickly...

    Anxious.
    .. how are you travelling??


    well my super dupa last cycle is all organised... airfares booked, my lipoidal flush/ endometrial biopsy booked for the end of august and then I start injecting beginning of september. now it is all up to my body to give me a nice 27 day cycle to line it all up... I will go onto the ocp for 2 weeks to line the cycle up with dates.. and hope that the chinese herbs do their stuff.
    I feel quite good... my green smoothie in the morning is helping (spiralina, wheat grass, barley grass, chia, lsa,lethicin, blueberries, yogurt, juice, chlorophyl, fish oil) seems to help and I feel full until about 2pm.. and then not eating white flour products and no sugar has made a real difference.. lost 1kg so far.. I do find it hard at night when I want something sweet with my cuppa... but a mandarin has helped with that...
    My cycle has certainly been very good with the chinese herbs and all the dietry changes so Im hoping that it all is good and stays that way...fingers crossed..lol
    anyway time for bed... bit sleep deprived due to DD, at least I have acupuncture tomorrow so a little nap time for me..lol

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    Hi ladies, welcome, congrats and thinking of you all (a cheats personal).

    Finally, I have started lucrin and prednisone day 2, downside, have a slight attack of gastro care of DD.

    Fortunate - I totally understand where you are coming from. This morning I was feeling old, tired and defeated after days of limited sleep DD spewing pooing whining teething and now conjunctivitis, my house stinks I look 50 while DH is on his week fishing trip. I really had to question my motive of having a sibling to DD, when I feel this way with no energy (I am usually a fit person). I am very blest to have her, couldn't love anything more. But even though it's exhausting at times, the urge to have another child is too strong to not give it another go.
    I also wonder what my parents are going to say when I am preggers, I can see the eyebrow raise lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micca View Post
    green smoothie...
    That is weird timing Micca! I was googling Green Smoothies TODAY! LOL

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    Hi all

    Just thought I would share with you all my main learnings from seeing an integrative GP yesterday = get your vitamin d checked! I have been taking 3000 mg of vitamin D each day. However he said that based on a blood test I had back in December, I would be vitamin D deficient to the point were it could make me infertile, even with though I supplement this! In fact he said that I would need to be taking 9000 a day of Vitamin D to be at the levels I should be at! So if you haven't done so please make sure those D levels are up.

    When I told him about how my high estrogen levels which resulted in cancellation of my last ivf attempt he said that this may have been due to the high amount of DHEA that I have been taking. If you have too much DHEA (I have been taking about 75 (3 tablets) every day for approximately the last 8 months) you will start converting the DHEA to Estrogen!!! This of course can cause infertility and hence IVF failure... so take-home no. 2 is that DHEA levels need to be closely monitored. My FS prescribed DHEA without checking my starting levels and has never checked or monitored them since. Don't get me wrong, I think DHEA is good but too much is not good.

    My FS only ever tests for 3 things: FSH, oestrogen and progesterone levels on day 2 of my bleed to determine whether an iVF cycle can viably proceed. Can I ask what everyone else is tested on if this varies?
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    Good luck Micca!
    Wannabe Mum. I've been looking into Vit D a little so great info. T-Tapp exercise guru Teresa has noted it has a big effect on Thyroid and weightloss as well. I'm planning plenty of new vitamins as I've let mine slip. I usually use COQ10, a conception multi, Spirulina, royal jelly, bee pollen, emu or fish oil, To be honest, I've used more than I can possibly remember. This time I want to add B vitamins, vitamin D, lots of Zinc (most of us are zinc deficient too), mega folate. I don't know if it was seen on any of the other threads but my FS has refused to prescribe clexane without hard evidence of NK cells. I'm bitterly disappointed. She's referred me to a specialist who can do the testing but warned me they might refuse to do so based on my age. There isn't much in the way of alternatives here in Perth so I am somewhat stymied at the moment. For those on clexane, treasure your FS! You are lucky.
    I was looking at starting again next month but now I'm not too sure.

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    Hi Net - you mention vitamin B and this integrated GP has given me a range of blood tests, including B. Net why are you hesitating about going ahead with your next cycle? My FS refused to offer me clexane too. Not sure why either.

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    For once I am thankful I had a blood clot due to a recent injury as I am on Clexane for that. I saw a specialist and have to stay on Clexane until I have a baby or give up trying- what ever comes first.

    Anyway had my FS appointment. No surprises- FET July. Feeling a bit positive- the last cycle was so almost a success that it bodes good news. If the FET fails then we go straight into a stim cycle in August- no delays. YEAH!
    Spoke a little about how long to try cycles on my eggs- was told that since all fertilised and we got 1 excellent fresh blasty and 1 excellent frozen blasty that it is a good sign that the eggs are still useable So I shouldn't give up on my eggs just yet.
    Now I am just waiting for AF, first BT next week, with follow up BT until ovulation, 5 days later FET assuming it thaws out.
    Oh and bonus I am to be on the prog pessaries this time (lucky as I have about $150 worth left!)

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    Hi Ladies

    Fortitude-its like you took the words right out of my mouth I have many days like that and you are sooooooo true many situations such as this(and the loss of a child )really show you who your true friends and supportive family are..........unfortunaetly I really believe this world would be so much better if everyone just accepted people for who and what they are

    micca-you sound like you are getting truely fit and healthy...... you put me to shame well september is only 8 1/2 weeks away and that time will fly( im headn towards my scan to see the heart beat in september)

    Anxious- I like your cheats way for personals

    wanabemum- Thanks for the great advise my vitamin d is very low also so i am on double tablets think i might tripple them as my fn said your body discards any you dont need.
    my fs throws everything at me and i hate the clexane but i guess i should be great full if some of you are not allowed to have it-i end up black all over.....


    cheers

    ICSI #1 2008(1 Embryo) -DS Archie Jo(stillborn at 36wks and 5 days)
    ICSI #2 2009(2 Embryo's) 1 Transfered -BFN (1 frozen)
    FET #3 2009 BFN
    ICSI #42009(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #52010(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #6 2011 May/June 2011 -BFN

    ED 2011 no luck -BFN

    # 8 Here we come
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    Hi ladies Kenta, my test date is 16th. When's yours? I see you also have fibroids - me too. I have 2 on the outside of the uterus, but on this last cycle FS noticed some tiny new ones in the muscle, so hoping they don't grow thru? No idea if they will affect outcome - will never know. This is our last cycle regardless. Good luck in your 2ww!Fortitude, I often have those 'old' days... in fact just this morning I was thinking about a guy at work who's partner is preg with their 2nd...They're in their 20's - can't imagine what he'd think if I said I'm try at 42! Sounds old to me even...(still can't believe I'm 42)Micca & tens, why do you need to wait til Aug/Sep to cycle? Sounds like you're gearing up for it well.Wannabemum, interesting info - wish all FSs were integrative - would make more sense!Net, hope you can go again next month...Anxious, good luck with your cycle... hope this is the one...Goldie, welcome and good luck with your cycle too!AFM, confirmed yesterday that 3rd embie didn't make it, so no frosties therefore no back up FET... so this is the ultimatum now... at least one of these twinnies in me has to go the distance or there's no kids for us. I've come to terms with it all more now... Could go either way and would be upset of course but not devastated anymore. I just keep feeling too old to keep trying. It's been 3 yrs, 11 cycles and 3 MC so far... a 4th MC would be the final straw.But I'm doing fine. Trying not to think about 2ww or anything beyond too much, in fact talk more about not having kids these days (gearing myself up for the reality). Weird... never thought I'd get to this stage.Have a gr8 day everyone


 

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