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    Btw don't worry too much about weight, as long as your healthy or start eating well and walking. I have never seen an overweight woman at the clinic, quite the opposite, a lot of skinny mini's and most normal weight. I am fit healthy and normal weight, but I do seem to blow out when doing IVF, DOH.

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    I don't know if it would be any comfort Fortitude but I know of a lady who had PGD done and even her grade 1 embies had differing Trisomies. Grade 1 doesn't mean there's nothing wrong. Good on you tens2many for using your embies. I'm on a donor egg forum hoping to get some embies donated but also looking at the issues. I am currently trying to make the decision whether to have one last go with my own eggs, try donor embryos or give up altogether. It is a really hard decision. Logic tells me to give up on my own eggs but I just can't quite do it yet. That may be because it took me 8 months on the donor sperm waiting list. It is almost like givign up on this huge investment I made. It doesn't help to have so many women at work coming back from maternity leave they started when i was just starting to try. One has even come back and gone on a second maternity leave. Fortunately she went through IVF herself so totally understands my lack of genuine joy on her behalf. Enough self pity! I need exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tens2many View Post
    Hi there Ladies im back on "the wagon"
    I admire you so much. Here I am weeping and all sad after ONE failed BFP. Here you are standing up to face it all again to take the chance. Losing a son must be so very devastating. Especially when you have tried again so many times without your dream yet. But logic says those embyros have a chance, and never say never. Wishing you the best of luck. How many frosties bubs do you have? Will you transfer one at a time or do DET? What timeline have you got planned?

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    Hey Net3811- that's what I figured- it probably had a chromosomal abnormality.
    Sounds like you are at a crossroads in IVF. What has the FS recommended about your eggs vs donor eggs? It certainly is hard when people around you are having babies. It also seems every second ad on the TV is about babies.

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    Hey Micca- thanks for the pep talk. I think the frustrating bit is waiting on the 'off' cycles when my logical brain is scream "YO I'm getting older here!!! What exactly am I waiting for!" LOL

    Truth is some women are still falling pregnant naturally in their 40's, so hopefully IVF can help us all. IVF certainly gave you one dream with your DD.
    Which in itself is a miracle. How do you find being a mum in your 40's?
    One thing that has worried me is going out with a baby and my daugher as she is nearly 15 people might think it is HER baby and I am grandma!!

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    Anxious- Thanks for the welcome I like you have always struggled with the decision of 1 or 2 my issue is I am classed as high risk after a stillbirth not to mention AGE and weight DOH........

    Net3811- I no only to well the hard decisions we have to make life would be just so simple without ivf I hate women that only have to lay down and then they are pg...

    Fortitude - you have every right too weep it is very emotional indeed....
    We have 5 frosties left we were blessed with 6 .

    This is the personal conculsions we came to for Doner Embies:

    *Baby or No baby.

    *Life seems to have taken us down this path.

    *Dna does not mean you cant love that baby as we love each other and we do not share Dna.I am Dna linked to my family and there is zero love there + 3 alcoholics 2 mental cases and 3 members with depression in my immediate family!!! who would want Dna linked to them!!!

    *This will be an amazing gift from 2 special caring people therefor a baby may also be a special caring person.

    *We shall get if sucessful the chance to share a happy birth experience together(for those that dont know we share a stillbirth)


    *We will be giving these embies a chance at life.

    *Once implanted its my body that shall nourish and enable it to grow.

    *Finally we are going to look at this as an early early adoption.

    Only 10% of people recieve Doner embies so it is very clear to us that we are extremly lucky to have this opportunity!!! Our FS suggested it to us when our last cycle resulted in a BFN we have been fortunate enough to be matched with a very generous couple within 1 week!!!! We feel sooooooooo grateful.Im hoping that we were matched so easily because yrs ago I offered to be a doner/surrogate for my sister and all ive ever wanted was 1 embie for me and 1 to donate to someone else thruout all my cycles so maybe this is my reward for being so open minded....

    ICSI #1 2008(1 Embryo) -DS Archie Jo(stillborn at 36wks and 5 days)
    ICSI #2 2009(2 Embryo's) 1 Transfered -BFN (1 frozen)
    FET #3 2009 BFN
    ICSI #42009(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #52010(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #6 2011 May/June 2011 -BFN

    ED 2011 no luck -BFN

    # 8 Here we come

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    I am loving your thinking about donor embryos. Very well articulated and considered.

    Quote Originally Posted by tens2many View Post
    This is the personal conculsions we came to for Doner Embies:

    *Baby or No baby. Roll the dice, take the chance. At worst your are no better off than now right? just a bit poorer.

    *Life seems to have taken us down this path. It sure has!

    *Dna does not mean you cant love that baby as we love each other and we do not share Dna.I am Dna linked to my family and there is zero love there + 3 alcoholics 2 mental cases and 3 members with depression in my immediate family!!! who would want Dna linked to them!!! MANY MANY people join into step families and adore and love those children. Yes, maybe getting away from that type of DNA is a plus- good thought.

    *This will be an amazing gift from 2 special caring people therefor a baby may also be a special caring person. What a great insight! I am sure some characteristics are innate- and I am sure altruism is bound to be one of them.

    *We shall get if sucessful the chance to share a happy birth experience together(for those that dont know we share a stillbirth) xoxoxo what a wonderful possibility


    *We will be giving these embies a chance at life. I totally agree with that train of thought, otherwise it is a waste of potential life.

    *Once implanted its my body that shall nourish and enable it to grow. Without you that embryo would never grow, so in that sense you become the mother as you are the nurturer.

    *Finally we are going to look at this as an early early adoption. Perfect rationale!
    I hope your dreams come true! When are you planning to start the process?

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    tens... that was beautiful... I too would think about donor embryos the same... if I was not fortunate to have DD I think I would have done that route..probably to america. Who knows if the aus dollar gets to $1.70 like its predicted I may have to rethink... of course I am hopeing that my last cycles this year work.
    I find the real interest is in epigenetics... it is the effect of the maternal blood. dna, diet on the baby to change it... so even though the DNA is not yours, the baby will have been changed in the womb by your body... epigenetics is an exciting new field and they are finding out lots of things.... one of the newest findings is that mothers that eat a lot of junk food during pregnancy have a baby that is more prone to obesity as an adult... wow. But there are other factors that can improve brain growth, bone strength... so it will be your baby through and through, I so hope that this works for you... if anyone deserves some luck and joy it is certianly you and DH.

    Fortitude.. hang in there... cry as much as you want to ... we have all done it... I tended to test sundays and spend the day crying my eyes out in bed... and then have a pity party week where I ate whatever I liked... sometimes it is great... although after my 4week pity party my waistline is not so happy
    I would seriously start some vitamins.. those eggs are gettin old..lol
    coq10 150mg, zinc 50mg, folic acid 5mg, blackmores ifolic, pregnancy multivitamin, vit C 1000mg, vit E 1000iu, vit D 1000iu, DHEA 50-75mg, melatonin 2-3mg night, inositol 1.3g 2 x day. they will help... your GP/FS can give you scripts for the melatonin/dhea or you can get them from the usa.. but it takes about 3weeks.
    As for being a mum in her 40s... I think I am much more laid back... I dont stress too much with DD and she certainly makes me feel very very young... ask me again in 5years when she is going to school with mums that are in their 30s and I am nearly 50..eek..

    net... its so hard this TTC game when you want a baby so much and everyone seems to have one around you. I did not realise how much it shaped my life and how much I avoided babies, pregnant friends until after I had DD... Now I love being around them. All I can say is that if your dream and strength are strong enough you will get there and achieve it... the road may be rocky and hard but it will be worth it in the end.

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    [QUOTE=micca;6622533]coq10 150mg, zinc 50mg, folic acid 5mg, blackmores ifolic, pregnancy multivitamin, vit C 1000mg, vit E 1000iu, vit D 1000iu, DHEA 50-75mg, melatonin 2-3mg night, inositol 1.3g 2 x day. they will help... your GP/FS can give you scripts for the melatonin/dhea or you can get them from the usa.. but it takes about 3weeks.
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    I am going to ask my FS about DHEA and melatonin. I kind of already did- I asked about Colarado protocol and she was a bit mixed about it. She felt full proper research has yet to prove it.
    I am already on Vit D, Folic, Iron and calcium (calcium is to counter act the clexane which leaches bone density).
    I read that too much Vitamin C can cause MC. But a little will boost me up, and I know Vit C can help cell growth in embyros. Guess it's a matter of balance with Vit C.
    Never heard of coq10... will take a look at Coles when I am doing my shopping.
    What does the coq10, zinc and Vit E do as far as you know?
    Mind you, they are all no use for the CURRENT frosty, only for future embryos. But since it take 2-3 months to get into my system I guess I have plenty of time before a possible stim cycle as next cycle is 6 weeks away and a FET.

    When I had my oldest I was a baby myself, had them all by 26. So I am used to being the 'young mum'. Yet if IVF works I will be the 'old mum'. Ironically, I had my oldest when I was the age he is now- so if he had a bub at the same age I did my grandbaby would be the same age as my own baby- freaky. Being a young mum had some advantages, but being older does too.

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    Hi ladies hope you enjoyed your public holiday I myself had to work!!!

    Micca just as I remember you are a book of knowledge so I wish to pick your brains a little if thats ok. I am riddled with endo and they just removed a really large ugly polyp whats your take on my chances now ?-they did not see it neccesary to remove any of the endo I have to wait the results of the polyp and talk to fs what our next move should be.Its very confusing to me as im not using my own eggs the endo shouldnt be an issue but is endo an issue for implantation? How do you make your uterus receptive???

    Fortitude - im just gunna wait for fs and then im good to go im hitting the vitamins and saving like mad to cough up the cash which my fs ensures im only OOP around a $1000 each time (I think he has a soft spot for me- he still assures me he will get me pg).
    Fact is im 43 this year no time to spare I suppose


    ICSI #1 2008(1 Embryo) -DS Archie Jo(stillborn at 36wks and 5 days)
    ICSI #2 2009(2 Embryo's) 1 Transfered -BFN (1 frozen)
    FET #3 2009 BFN
    ICSI #42009(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #52010(2 Embryos) 2 Transfered -BFN
    ICSI #6 2011 May/June 2011 -BFN

    ED 2011 no luck -BFN

    # 8 Here we come


 

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