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    Default yes perfectly normal for dhea to cause hair to fall out

    Leannep I went on 75mg of DHEA for about 4 months up until about January. I found excess amounts of hair fell out to the point were I bought a new vacuum cleaner! Don't worry it grows back apparently when you stop taking it and we have a lot more hair on our heads then we realise and it grows really fast

    Just to share my story though, I go to an endocrinologist for my thyroid problem and when she saw elevated sex hormones in my blood test (I think it was androgen?) she said she thought I had POCS. I told her that I was taking the DHEA and even asked her if this could be skewing the blood test. She said that she didn't think so. As it turns out it was the DHEA. Even though I had my blood test results copied to my FS and my GP no-one picked this up and I can only put this down to the fact that a lot of doctors just don't know enough about DHEA and my FS probably didn't think it was important for me to know about. I was worried about the POCS so I went to an Endocronologist who specialises in fertility who confirmed that yes it was the DHEA after all. All that stress for nothing! However as a result I stopped taking it unfortunately - I am back on it now though. Sorry I know this a confusing story but bottom line is there are side effects but most of them I found are not too bad. It is good however to make sure you have a doctor who is monitoring you and who you can talk to.

    Overall the DHEA is a mood lifter and seems to have worked in this regard for me though i did experience a few lows when I went off it.

    Hope this helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leannep View Post
    Micca as I said on the other thread my heart goes out to you Hun wish I could fix it for you enjoy yr pitty party xxx

    Fort any updates how you going?? What's the latest update for u and when is transfer??

    Afm has anyone on dhea had their hair fall out?? Today mine has been heaps and just wanna know if that's normal???

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    The good, the bad and the ugly...
    Good: 1x grade 1 embryo!!!!! In and hopefully implanting itself right now. On a plus, all I want is one baby so if it does stick about all is good. Apparently it looked 'text book' perfect.
    Bad: 3x immature blasties... might not end up big enough to freeze, they will update and let us know Friday but it seems unlikely. Still in media- hopefully growing.
    Ugly: 2x failed to go beyond day 3.

    Pregnancy Blood Test Saturday 2nd June.
    So a mixture of very excited and bit disappointed that only one was so good. But better than none right?

    Fortitude

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    fortitude.... woohoo.... PUPO with a super blast on board... now can you hang out for the next 5 days to start the evil POAS sticks...lol.... embie stick dust for you....
    lets hope that the tail gaters get good enough to have some to freeze.. but a good result for you... congrats


    not much for me... getting AF pains...so things might be happening in the next 2 days...
    throat swab came back with strep bacteria... no wonder my throat has been killing me... Im hoping that the antibiotics knock it for six... still very sore but maybe a little better....
    ordering vitamins and chinese herbs tonight... and sorting all left over ivf stuff into a box for the next cycle... and will be booking acupunture ...
    Leanne I ate a bag of twisties this afternoon... and I thought of you as I munched on each one..lol....

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    Hey girls (I know this sounds dumb) but it just occured to me today (after my ET) that I need to be on a 'pregnancy' diet now (yeah I know, REALLY DUMB that I didn't think that technically I need to be acting pregnant BEFORE I know the outcome cause I could be). This thought occured to me when I ordered lunch at a cafe- I suddenly thought cr&p everthing seems to have ham and salad. Anyway, I ordered a lamb, pesto, tomato and rocket foccacia. It is a good cafe with heavy turn over of food- sure it'll be OK this time. I haven't done this for ages... I remember no cold deli meats, no cold chicken, no soft cheese, no heavy metal fish, no raw stuff like sushi, no prepacked salads... so what on Earth can I order out? Enlighten me girls. A meat pie? a quiche? I like to keep trim so they're out. Already on decaf- so 'tick' there at least.
    Damn, failing Mummy 101 already. LOL

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    eating out is hard... anything that is well cooked... ie fried or baked...
    toasted sandwiches are ok as they get really hot, soups, quiches are ok so long as they nuke the crap out of it. steak etc (welldone though) most resturant food is made fresh so no problems there its usually cafes that are the problem...
    Maccas seems to be ok... but you cant eat the soft serve icecream or shakes (risk of staph) same with KFC...but subway are a no no..

    this is a good site, and the down loadable booklet on the right of the screen is good

    http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/...ood/pregnancy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortitude View Post
    Hey girls (I know this sounds dumb) but it just occured to me today (after mny ET) that I need to be on a 'pregnancy' diet now (yeah I know, REALLY DUMB that I didn't think that technically I need to be acting pregnant BEFORE I know the outcome cause I could be). This thought occured to me when I ordered lunch at a cafe- I suddenly thought cr&p everthing seems to have ham and salad. Anyway, I ordered a lamb, pesto, tomato and rocket foccacia. It is a good cafe with heavy turn over of food- sure it'll be OK this time. I haven't done this for ages... I remember no cold deli meats, no cold chicken, no soft cheese, no heavy metal fish, no raw stuff like sushi, no prepacked salads... so what on Earth can I order out? Enlighten me girls. A meat pie? a quiche? I like to keep trim so they're out. Already on decaf- so 'tick' there at least.
    Damn, failing Mummy 101 already. LOL

    Fortitude (the dumb one)
    Not dumb at all Fort.

    And congrats on having the bestest blastie on board.

    I had a moment in the first trimester where I burst into tears in a food court because I couldn't find anything I thought would be safe and everything else was horribly unhealthy (eg Maccas/KFV)

    Even on stuff like quiche I freaked because it has ham. But what you had with the lamb etc imo is fine.

    If I'm at food court I go for:-

    - fresh made wraps with cheese & salad (I have not been overly fussy on salad when the items are kept separately eg tomato etc)
    - fresh made tuna & salad sandwich (canned tuna has lower mercury levels and 2-3 serves per week are okay as per health authority guidelines)
    - toasted cheese, avocado,tomato etc
    - most pasta is okay if it's without processed meats like ham. Bacon is okay because they cook it
    - soups are coming back in, with a bread roll & fruit salad if you need to fill up more
    - if something you know is cooked hot & fresh that is usually okay because it will 'burn off' the worst of the scary things, listeria baddies die at around 70 degrees. The Asian noodle box places with veges should be okay. Although that's what triggered my tears when I finally thought I could order something there, I realised they'd pre-cooked the chicken & just re-heat it on the hotplate. Veges should be fine though.

    I didn't worry too much about the fat levels in cheese because you also need your calcium so (hard) cheese became quite a good substitute for me.

    I am & was very careful but there does come a point where it's listeria hysteria ! If you can take your lunch with you that's great, or if you have a cafe like the one you know has a turnover that's pretty safe.

    Now I'm on a gestational diabetes diet so it is even harder ! I take my lunch to work & have to diet plan a bit better. All worthwhile !

    My advice would be : be careful but don't go crazy trying to be careful.

    I really enjoyed this article from earlier in the year about the pressures of modern motherhood & parenting. Okay, the academic is French but she makes some good points, this is my favourite paragraph.

    Don't touch a cat or drink a coffee or sleep on your back or varnish a chair or dye your hair or get your hands dirty in the garden, say the myth-makers. Do sleep on your left side and sit on a fit ball and play Bach to your belly. Most of all, stop eating just about everything. In Australia, due to the (real, but extremely small) risk of contracting listeriosis, pregnant women are advised not to consume soft cheeses, cured meats, sushi or sashimi, soft-serve ice-cream, unwashed vegetables, pre-cut fruit, rare meat, raw egg products, or anything involving mayonnaise. Instructively, such dietary dictates exist in every country - but vary from place to place. In France, salads are regarded with suspicion, but everybody eats soft cheese. And in Japan, presumably, someone, somewhere, has eaten sushi while pregnant with no ill effects.


    eta. Bugger it wouldn't let me post the link because it's from a rival forum - but it was originally in the Good Weekend magazine, and was an interview with Elisabeth Badinter if you want to google !

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    Fort- well done girlfriend, I have an extremely good feeling about your emby....don't ask why, but I just do, and I am usually right with feelings and suspicions!, I will still send the appropriate amount of positive vibs your way. Please don't stress about food, just be aware of the food prep area, no funky chicken lying on the bench...funny thought, 3rd world countries still have babies and hygiene and freshness isn't an option for some.

    Micca- the ride on the hormone train, not a fun time for you...wine helps lol. X cuddles for you!

    I have a sneaky packet of clomid in the fridge, I might take it this cycle, just tossing up if I should or not. Ha, why would a natural pregnancy work now, funny how I always think, 'it just might work' DOH, stupid mind!

    Have a lovely days ladies!

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    Thanks Anxious!... funky chicken on the bench... EWWWW!!! I am finding the progesterone makes me feel pregnant- I feel queasy like morning sickness. So I sure won't be eating anything looking vaguely suspect.
    I hope your intuition is right. Funnily enough I feel quite positive- but keep telling myself to feel neutral so I won't be disappointed if it fails to implant.
    Am becoming a weirdo- find myself touching my stomach wondering what that embryo is doing. Is it implanting? still floating about? alive?

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    Fortitude - Congralutions on being PUPO. I have had a funny feeling since your EPU that this is going to work for you too. Sending you lots of sticky vibes.

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    Lilwish- how are you? what you up too?

    Micca- Hope the lrgee has made tracks and that your DD is sleeping and more settles. Not good to miss a pay when you need the $, but the silver lining is you got some down time with all this cr&p from the chem preg. xoxox

    Leanne- how you coping with the DHEA?

    Wannabe- Hope your ultrasound goes very well and that the twins have made a growth spurt. I am keeping you and them in my thoughts.

    Wannabemum- Hi! how are you going? what stage are you at with current plans?

    Anxious- I am still laughing about the funky chicken... LOL As for the clomid: I say "nothing ventured nothing gained"... imagine if it worked? OMG

    Sunny- how are your plans going? update?

    Lilbirdy- thanks for all that great info about preg diet! How's the diabetes going? How are you finding preg in general? You must be getting excited! Have you done the whole nursery thing? I never was able to do the "dream nursery" due to renting. Wish they had had all those cool removeable vinyl stickers when I had my kids. They look so amazing.

    AFM Was wondering about how at day 3 6/6 were good yet by day 5 only one made it to be a grade 1 embryo. Now I understand it more- I found this information interesting:
    During the first few days, the embryo relies on the mother's egg for all its nutrients. However, in order to survive past day three or four, the embryo must activate its own genes. Not all embryos are successful. In fact, only about one-third of the embryos become blastocysts.

    Kind of not liking the whole waiting thing (never been a patient type of person) especially as I feel some nausea. Did anyone else get a strong sense of smell on progesterone? I went out with one of my BFF's last night and one of the guys there- man he smelled, like BO! Ewww, I was practically wretching. I am noticing I can smell everything, bad things especially.


 

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