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    3 embies on board... joys of being old...

    they look good with no fragmentation..so win on the beauty pagent.. but are slow growers...

    so I transfered 2x 5 cell and 1x4cell (3 day embies)...

    not holding out any hope at all... as the slow growth probably reflects chromosomal abnormalities in the embryos...darn age... so the chances this works are really like nil... which I am ok with as I will expect a bfn... but certainly it would be harder with good embryos and then get that result...

    I must say this has been my worst cycle ever.. ironic it is the first fresh one with the guru... but I really think I was oversuppressed... . I said Id do one more fresh in sept and then a frozen if it does not work... he was happy with this...

    So I am not going to obsess. and am just going to get on with life as normal just test as early as I can so I can stop the drugs and pessares...lol.... and look forward to a winter of skiing and enjoying the snow...

    So home on the GC for a quiet arvo and then meeting with friends tomorrow and prob go out to a nice seafood buffet... friday...and fly home sunday

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    Hey Micca, thanks for the update, I wondered how you were going.
    Am I right?... you transferred all 3?? No frosties? My clinic seem allergic to the prospect of more than single transfer. So I was amazed at 3. My FS has basically said unless things really are not working out I will only have the option of single. If this really isn't working 'maybe' 2... "MAYBE" she said. Maybe this is due to my pregnancy history and the additional proven risk multiples would put on my ability to make viable term.
    I am thinking of you, sending +ve vibes for one of those little slow bloomers to stick and grow into your dream. If it isn't to be then enjoy the mulled wine by the fire after a ski day!! Start fresh and relaxed in September. But I hope you stay on the forum and say hi still. Even better, I hope you get BFP!
    Now for the 2WW right? Sounds like you're starting in style with that seafood buffet-YUMMO.

    How about everyone else??? Any updates???

    AFM I have FS Monday, and clinic Wednesday. I am imagining (hoping, despite my poor unrelated other recover) that a time line will be set. How do they pick when to start the ball rolling? From what I am understanding it is day 1 AF? is that right??? I hope not... cause AF is due any time and may beat me to my appointment next week. I hate the idea I would wait another month as I feel like I am looking at an hourglass with not much sand left. It's like 'come on get this started already!!!'

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    Micca – Congratulationson being PUPO. I thought the guru would put 3 back. I know that we put ourselves into self preservation mode and try to protect ourselves from disappointment and grief, but if there is one thing that IVF has taught me and that is its super unpredictable – anything can happen and does. Im sending you lots and lots of positive sticky vibes for 1, 2 or 3 of your good looking slow pokes to bury in. When is BT?

    Fortitude –Your FS would most likely put 1 embryo back in considering its your first IVF attempt. All first attempts seem to be a‘test’ cycle and most FS’s will take a conservative approach. Usually IVF cycles will commence with an ultrasound and blood test at Day 21, anticipating commencement at your next Day 1. The ultrasound is to see that your ovaries are ready to cycle (no cysts) and the blood test is to ensure that your hormones are baseline. Yes, Day 1 is the first day of established bleeding during AF (not any spotting prior). I see that you are in Canberra….I grew up in Canberra and all my family are still there. I fly back at least once or twice a year.

    Lilbirdy – Good to hear from you. How far along are you?

    Leannep – A huge good luck wish for tomorrow....did you end up doing a POAS yesterday?

    AFM
    Knackered after a big day at the RSL yesterday . Haven’t been in absolute years….but I gotta say, I had the BEST time and bumped into so many friends and acquaintances…lots and lots of laughter. A social day/night out is so what I needed...been too long.

    Mum flew out on Monday…miss her already. She says it is cold and miserable and wants to get straight back on a plane to Cairns! We had such good quality mother/daughter time.

    On the countdown for my appointment with specialist regarding my Antinuclear Antibodies (ANA). Appointment is 8 May. I had somehow got the wrong data on my ANA and thought last year it was 1:460 and this year 1:464. On further checking, my readings are 2010 –1:40, 2011 – 1:60 and this year 1:640…WTF!!! Why the big jump….good question for the specialist….hope she has the answers and/or remedy to get my 2 red lines!!!
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    sunny... sounds like it was a great day...a normal person day ...Im so happy you had fun. looking forward to some wine if this cycle fails...its been a long long long time.... and I have some nice bottles in the cellar....
    Gosh looking at that rise in ANA..I definately would be considering this as a hiccup to implantation.. prednisone usually fixes it and maybe some high dose folic acid and aspirin.. fingers crossed that your appointment goes well.
    I hope that you are right and I am wrong... but stats on slow growing embies are not great and add in age as well... personally I think the 4 cell will arrest.. so we will just see in 2 weeks.... think I will beta around may 8th... 15dpo.. so that I can stop the meds ASAP..those suppositories do my head in.

    Fortitude... I agree with what sunny says about the first ivf being a test... sometimes if the quality is not good they may put 2 back in... I got 3 today because the quality was not good with the cell growth and at 43 the chances of all being chromosomally normal is nil....so chances are poor...
    I had 2 blasts put in when I had DD.. which were both pretty good.
    Great that you are in canberra... I live about 2.5hr south of you... so canberra is the big smoke for me.... still have not gone to costco yet...lol..lol..
    if you chat to your FS about starting your cycle ..often you can go on the birth control pill with AF and then it makes coordinating the cycle a lot easier for you... and you can start when you are ready...

    well not a lot to report...
    had some couch time... DD was mental.. high on some chemical we missed after the orgie the other night..lol... so ended up going to the beach and had a lovely time playing in the water chasing the waves and making sand moats... supposed to take more valium,.. but did not want the fuzziness so will take some tonight. I also had my progesterone and oestrogen levels checked today but the machine was broken and the results did not come through... so have to phone tomorrow..as the FS wondered about my progesterone as I had some endometrial spotting...
    Anyway planning lunch, water park play for DD and a seafood buffet...what a day... then home to the cold on sunday...

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    Default Hi girls

    Hi there,
    Sorry for the hush hush from me. I have tried to be IVF free in my head over the last few weeks. Summary, HCG still rising, over 80,000 but no viable pregnancy. Sac has grown to 4cm. Had 3 big bleeds which only lasted a day each but all the symptoms stayed. Sore boobies, tired, eating everything in sight, a bit nauseous.
    So, finally yesterday I had the D&C. Feeling ok now as it is over (again!!).
    Having bloods to see why I am implanting but not getting past 10 weeks.
    Down to 2 donor eggs now. They are day 3 freezes. I want to use them but right now, well, guess I just need some time for the old body and mind to come around. Feel emotionally and physically buggered!
    I am booked in at the hairdressers this morning for a colour and trim etc but have to change that as the bleeding makes it one of those "I wanna stay at home" days! Thought about getting fit and toned over the next few months but that thought only lasted a few minutes.
    Hope to catch up on your posts and sticky thoughts to everyone.

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    Hey DJSHEARS -sounds like a very difficult rollercoaster you are on.
    No wonder you don't care about getting your hair done. I think I would probably be sulking in a cave myself. I am glad the D&C is over so at least you can start deep breathing and preparing mentally and physically for these last 2 donor eggs. I am not at all surprised you feel buggered in all ways. I am thinking of you as I think of all of us who are trying to catch a break as oldie IVF girls.
    Perhaps forget the hair and book a massage instead?

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    DJ... so wonderful to hear from you... sorry to hear your news... how frustration that everything is perfect except for the most important bit. Big hugs.
    I hope that you recover from the D+C quickly and feel a lot better... the nice news is that in the next 3-4months it will increase your chances of implantation... I hope that you are able to get some answers...and Im sure your bub is waiting in those 2 donor eggs...

    sounds like a nice day to snuggle in and watch tv... a massage and haircut sounds just what you need though... xxxx

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    Dj so sorry to hear about your long drawn out process it's so unfair as micca said at least the d&c increases your chances they only times it has worked for me was after d&c!! Take care and spoil yourself xxx

    Micca 3 wow I didn't think anyone did that many anymore?? I get it cause they are lower grade thats why but just imagine if two stuck that would be wonderful I'm so hearing you with the non positive attitude sometimes we prepare ourselves as it makes it easier!! I love the fact that you have the skiing planned take care of yourself over the next two weeks. Oh I have a question do you eat prawns in your TWW someone said I shouldn't?? And I never know??

    Fortitude hello not long now till your app it looks like we have our app on the same day I thi k you said the 8th I want it to come around quick!!

    Sunny I'm glad you had a nice time with your mum that's fantastic!! Yes and Anzac day I drank shandies and played two up with everyone it was wonderful.

    Lilibirdy hi I hope your keeping well!!

    Afm Well had the official bt today and yes another big fat fn negative(sorry about my language) but I'm so so tired of this as that was no 10 transfer and I'm just gutted it seems to be getting harder and harder to cope with and more tears!! I feel like my good friends that know what's happening are running out of steam as well!!(that's probably in my head) but I don't know what to do with myself and I'm so so emotional. I see my fs on the 8th may and not sure I may even take a break but I feel like my time is running out?? Oh it's just hard to know!!!!

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    leanne... that sucks %^&$#%^&**%^ there you go some strong language for you... I so understand your feelings of hopelessness and failure... hang in there we are all allowed to have a pity party for the next 48hrs..... im already planning mine...lol..lol... well actually its any excuse to eat comfort food at the moment..lol...
    So I guess you just have to figure out if it is an egg or implantation problems.... what to do?? well maybe my plan is worth it.... take 3 months off... take chinese herbs for the follicular and luteal phase, take DHEA, inositol, melatonin, coq10, have a life and then look at cycling in the spring... which statistically has higher chances...
    I am sure with you it is just a matter of time... as you have had bfps... but certainly with your miscarrages I would be looking at a recurrent miscarrage panel if you have not done it... looking at clotting and immune causes... fixed with prednisone and clexane... and a hysteroscopy if you have not had one.
    and have a good chat about protocols... Im planning to do a completely different one in sept (see Ive discounted this cycle already) I think you did the colarado did you not?? also go to the CCRM site and google vitamin lists for older patients.. Ive got it saved somewhere and they put all over 40s on it...and their stats are high for this age group so something must be right.

    just the hugest hugs and hugs and hugs..xxxxx


    oh and the prawn question... is basically the pregnancy listeria guidlelines.. prawns are ok as long as they are australian and fresh (not frozen) and cooked within 24hr of purchase... and eaten that day.

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    Micca yeah maybe I should have a break but I just wonder if I'm waisting good time?? I know my fs is going to do something different this time as he mentioned it last time I saw him he said if this one doesn't work he has something new hes working on that they do in the USA as he does quite a bit of work over there!! This time I did the colarado but. He added in dexamethsone a hormone patch and some antibiotics oh and filagrastim so we did a bit differently this time!! I also think my poor body has had so many drugs pumped into it over the last two years without a break it's taken it's toll. The new cycle he's taking about takes three months but I don't know much about it but will find out more when I see him on the 8th. Anyway I have a glass of nice wine in my hand now and twisties so hopefully that will get me through the night. Thanks for the tips I will check out that website and I'm pretty sure I'm on most of the vitamins and stuff of your list have a nice weekend xxx


 

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