I agree with all the PP
You said you were expressing, could you try topping her up with EBM instead of formula? Also I would do what the LC suggested, pop her back in. Even if she falls asleep and is just comfort sucking she is still stimulating your breasts.
I am crossing my fingers for you and sending you loads of and leaky booby vibes!
But please, if you are driving yourself insane and not getting results, don't let your mental health suffer.
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29-09-2011 10:10 #11
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29-09-2011 10:28 #12
Yeah she gets EBM as the top up as a first choice, formula only if I have no EBM.
I do breast compressions when she's really tired but I'm not sure I'm doing it properly. It often makes her let go because it messes with her latch. I'll have a look at that link.
She's feeding at the moment and seems to be sucking well. I hope she fills up!
29-09-2011 13:29 #13
So I just got back from the clinic. She has given me a lot of reassurance so I feel much better. The plan is to keep breastfeeding and expressing after each feed for 10min or so, which I will give to DD after the next feed. She's observed DD feed a few times now and while DD is improving, she's still not quite there yet. She believes DD will get much better as she gains weight and strength, and is confident I'll be able to fully BF with a few more weeks of effort.
She's also asked me to see my GP as she is convinced I have PND. I'm not happy about admitting it but I think she might be right. I've been so emotionally all over the place.
So all in all I think we're getting there...
29-09-2011 13:31 #14
Oh and DD has put weight on again! She's about 150g up from 2 weeks ago, so the small loss we had doesn't seem so bad now that I know overall she's gaining!
29-09-2011 14:59 #15Senior Member
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I had a poor feeder , early bub and a poor supply too. I really struggled to feed DS solely on BF/EBM and he too lost weight. I persisted with expressing, motilium, fenegreek, oat and water for 4 1/2 months, and finally succumbed to some formula on the odd occasion when it all got too much - after I got over my self-imposed guilt trip, I felt a huge relief with the pressure being off me to solely feed this child. He fed better, gained weight, i relaxed (which helped my supply) and all-in-all everything got a bit rosier.
In the end, having the occasionally bottle of formula up my sleeve for the days when it was all too much, or I had squeezed the last drops of milk out of my poor -over-sucked over-pumped boobs, saved our breastfeeding relationship, and my sanity. I BF DS untll 12 months and I couldn't have been prouder of myself, or my little boy for persisting.
A happy mum = a Happy bub. Do what is right for you and your family. There is no right or wrong way to go about this.
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29-09-2011 16:20 #16Senior Member
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Yay! Go you two. It really will get easier and then breastfeeding is blissful
01-10-2011 18:34 #17
Just jumping in a little late. I hope things have improved over the last couple of days. It makes such a difference when you regain a little bit of confidence that all your hard work is paying off.
In terms of breast compressions, I actually found a couple of instructional videos on you tube (it's an amazing resource!). Do a search and you can check if you're doing them right.
I too struggled with low supply and persisted with all the things you're doing. I did manage to make 12 months with my DD but I found a compromise of feeding both breast and formula. It made everyone happy and I was able to relax and enjoy my baby. You don't have to do one or the other, it's possible to do both. Formula is not the devil and even if you give her top ups, never forget that you're still breast-feeding!
Good luck at the next weigh in!
01-10-2011 21:12 #18
L&L - congrats on making it that far! Thanks for understanding - I do sometimes get too caught up in the guilt of giving her the occasional formula and even when I give her EBM rather than her being satisfied just with BF. I keep reminding myself that every drop of BM I get into her is doing her good, and I really should see every feed as a little victory!
I saw someone in another thread suggest that formula is dangerous and it's those comments that make people in my situation feel even worse.
I saw my GP yesterday because the clinic nurse is concerned about my emotional state. The GP agrees with the nurse that I have PND - I am embarrassed to say it and couldn't even say the words to the GP. So I'm going to do some counseling and possibly start some medication but I'm not quite comfortable taking it just yet.
Who knew feeding my gorgeous little girl would be so hard and cause so much heartache!
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01-10-2011 23:17 #19
Just popped in to see how you were going. yay for the 150g weight gain, that is brilliant!
Goodluck with the counseling, and congrats for being brave enough to talk to the GP.
Don't feel guilty for the occasional formula use, you have to do what is right for you & emotionally if that is what helps then go for it. I fully believe breast is best, but in saying that it doesn't always suit everyone and long term your baby will be just fine with whatever option you choose. You have already given her a great start, keep up the good work!
My mum had to feed my brother tinned carnation milk for 5 weeks when they were coming to Australia by boat, her milk supply dried up because she was so seasick and that was all they had on board to give him - he was the fattest baby I have ever seen pictures of! But he went on to be very healthy & bright and do well at school & uni and has a very successful career and a great dad to 2 healthy little boys. Long term it hasn't done him any obvious harm!
02-10-2011 21:30 #20
Thanks spotty! It was hard talking to the GP but I'm glad I did it. I'm hoping the counseling will help.
I had a few moments today where I just felt like giving up BF. I'm so sick with a head cold (I get awful sinus pain when I get colds) and can't take any decongestant, so I think that's getting me down at the moment. I have managed to express enough for a full feed so I'm now in bed and DH is going to do her next feed so I can sleep for a decent amount of time.
She did seem to fill herself up at the 3am and 7am feeds today which made me feel good - she looked satisfied and had a little spew after the feeds, but I don't know if that's a full tummy or just the reflux making some of it come back up. Just so hard to know.
I know I need to persevere, at least until that 12 week mark so I can achieve that goal. I know I'll get there if I keep at it and with some luck DD will be a much better feeder by then and we'll go beyond the 12 week target.
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