kismet: h has been down to one nap for about 2-3 months now....i find if he is awake after 2.30pm i dont have a hope of getting him to bed by 7.30am..sometimes if he has woken early his nap will be early he will struggle to stay awake but only if im desperate will i let him sleep about 20mins later in the day. sometimes he sleeps up to 3hrs but mostly its around 2 hours...
well gee, i releneted and gave H a bottle cos i could tell there was going to be a peformance last night...BUT after that he still wnated to get up, i was outraged like NO WAY kid are u getting BOTH a bottle and a play at night!!!!!!!! so i gave him another half a bottle.........i guess from sunday night its back to sleep and settle hard core, i think we just cannot deviate from this at all ever with him in the future, im going to break his $hit sleep evn if i have to take a week off work!!!!!!!!!
mini: the "sleep and settle" is from newcastle by natalie ebrill, i had a phone consult, i had a program but that was for a 6-9 month old, i do not know about H he is now 15months..i will have to contact here
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16-09-2011 08:03 #101Senior Member
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16-09-2011 09:57 #102
Kismet - Sounds like our house...Kade is waking up earlier and most days only has one sleep. He is a bit whingy late afternoon but i take him outside to play to distract him or try something else until bedtime which is usually between 6.30 - 7.00pm.
Jfb - Kade has been sick again so the sleeping thing has gone out the door here as well. I'm sooooooooooooooooo tired. Think i'll do the letting him cry himself back to sleep tonight if he seems ok before bed. Good luck with little H. Hope you get some sleep soon as well.
Gotta go...he is supposed to be asleep now but is wanting to get out of the cot.
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16-09-2011 12:30 #103Senior Member
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amum: maybe its the full moon .....
just curious, a couple of you have mentioned letting them cry themslves back to sleep, what does this mean??? when H cries, he is hysterical....he gets hot and sweaty etc....he would cry for over an hour non stop almost if i let him, i leave him for abour 2 minutes if he wakes but i can tell when he will or wont put himself back to sleep..the first time we did sleep and settle by the book, he cried for 1.5 hours that was with us comforting him every 1-3 minutes....it was such hard work. i think thats why we keep putting it off and now cos he is standing up, he shakes that cot like a banshee so this is going to be fun..im totally dreading it.
will have to buy some ice block moulds, H is loving ice blocks (zooper dooper) but dont want to get him high on the artifical colours and sugar so better go looking for some moulds.
16-09-2011 13:39 #104
Kismet - re day sleeps - my DS sounds alot like MG's story - around 18 months cutting back to 1 sleep and he also LOVES his sleep! TBH, it was more me and my social life cutting back his beloved morning sleep as that's when we like to go out for playgroups/meet with friends etc. I'd rush home for early lunch and then to bed for a 3 hours sleep which is awesome!! Occasionally if he's sick or particularly grumpy he will still have a morning sleep (15mins) but then no PM sleep which is worse. Whatever you do though, there's wobbly times during transitions
Sonja - good to here that 3 days was enough for Lucy to be toilet trained - it sounded too good to be true. My friend did her DS in 4 days at 2.5years so I'm aiming for that. Also girls are easier than boys... Good luck with Scarlett in the hols
JFB - H does sound like a party boy and not much of a sleeper sorry to say. I think the 'cry yourself to sleep' is ok if their cry is de-escalating but not for 1 hour plus!! We did controlled crying which worked a treat - cry for 5 mins - go in a quick 30 sec reassure +/- cuddle, cry for 10 mins - same quick cuddle etc, cry for another 10 mins - same again... would go for a walk with stroller if it went longer than that but it rarely did...
AFM - had 19 week scan yesterday and bubs has talipes - ie turned in feet and it's not even squishy in there yet. At worst he may need surgery but probably just plasters or nothing. DS also had mild talipes and it resolved by itself in a few weeks just with a bit more space to move!
16-09-2011 15:22 #105
Jfb - When i let Kade cry i only do it if he doesn't get hysterical.......but if he wakes and cries then stops then cries again then stops i leave him until he cries himself to sleep. As long as they have a break in the crying you are ok.
You could try letting him cry for more than 2 mins, say 5 then go in. The more you don't go in to him the more he will realise that you won't be coming in at all. Its hard to let them cry but i tell myself crying can't hurt him (unless of course he is hysterical). Good luck.
Mum4 - At least you are prepared for it and you won't be shocked when bubby is born. The main thing is that he is healthy.
16-09-2011 21:02 #106
Nessie I hope your mum isn't in pain and she can get some rest and peace. It must be a really hard time for you all
Jfb. We've just done the settle thing pretty much for the first time for Ruby. For some reason she started waking at night for an hour every bl**dy night. It was killing me. So at bedtime I started leaving her to cry for 5 mins. Lie her back down etc. She would of course get straight back up and crack it. But eventually would crack it a bit less. Eventually I might pick her up and shed be so exhausted she would go to sleep almost immediately. 2 nights I think and she had slept through every night since. And now for the first time ever I can put her to bed completely awake and she plays with her teddys till she goes to sleep. I'm still amazed! I've also turned the monitor off so unless she is really yelling I don't hear her and she must just go back to sleep. I hope H settles soon. It's so tiring being up every night when you still have to work/get through the day etc xx
16-09-2011 21:02 #107
JFB Amum's suggestion sounds good. I'll also check Save our Sleep for what she says for older babies. I know when they are standing up she says to lie them back down and keep doing it til they stop standing - I did that with Lucy - sometimes I had to do it 30 times but it worked and standing up tired her out so much she went to sleep.
M4N the trick with the toileting ebook is that your child can still be distracted as alot of her techniques rely on distracting the toddler - I think that's why she suggests 22 months as toddlers of that age can often be easily distracted. It gets harder as they get older so when they demand nappy or get upset about an accident etc distraction gets harder as they get older. Interesting about the baby's feet - is it hereditary?
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16-09-2011 21:07 #108
BK - snap!
Sounds similar to what we did with Lucy. Yep it works.
16-09-2011 21:10 #109
And Ruby is still on two day sleeps. From about 10-11:30. Then about 3-4:30. Then bed around 8.
She had her first proper day at childcare this week. Apparently she loved it! Had second helpings of all the food. Lol. Interacted with the kids and loved playing outside. I'm soooo relieved! The carers seem really nice and it's a 5 min walk from where we are living. Would love one more day but even the one helps me to work and my poor inlaws to get a break!
Preg going well. Feel uncomfortably big already. Tired all the time but getting excited about having a newborn again. Really struggling with boys names!!!! Any suggestions?? Ruby has started kissing my belly and saying bubba . GD test came back ok, but will have to have another one further into the pregnancy
Hope you are all well xx
16-09-2011 23:20 #110
M4N - my friend's son had talipes and was in plaster, not sure how long for he is a teenager now, pretty sure he had physio as well, still is a bit turned in but hasn't had any problems. Do you have a tiny body frame with not much room to spare for bub? I didn't have alot of room for Evie and she was small born & ended up with clicky hips.
JFB - good luck with the sleep and settle. My niece has got her hands on the manual as she's had trouble with her new bub, she was telling me yesterday that after reading it and listening to the cd's it practically tells her that how she dealt with her 1st baby was completely wrong but I told her what she did with him worked didn't it, she's never had any issues with him, I think she was just lucky she had an easy baby but the new bub is a total turn around for her and she's struggling.
Personally I don't believe in letting them cry it out for too long if they're getting too worked up/distressed.I've tried the SOS technique when putting her to bed for the night, lying her down every time she gets up which usually works after a few times but if she gets really worked up after I've left her a few times I get her up and try again a bit later. I've only dealt with her waking a few times during the night and when she's got hysterical I have got her up for about 15-20 mins sometimes 30 mins to calm her down, I don't let her play though (in desperation once I turned on telly and watched it with her on my lap), and then I put her back to bed & she's been ok. I have made the mistake of going in when she's stirred loud enough to wake me bcs I thought she was awake and she wasn't quite awake but when she's heard me has woken up and started crying hysterically as if I startled her so when I've heard her wake I just listen to see if she's going to start crying flat out before I go in & check her bcs sometimes she just goes back to sleep when she's just whinging. I think I would really suck at doing the sleep and settle thing if I had to.
BK - glad Ruby enjoyed her daycare and great news on the GD. Evie has same sleep periods as Ruby. She wouldn't have her arvo sleep today bcs she had a little friend here and I don't think she wanted to miss out of anything.
I better get to bed, should have gone ages ago, I've got a friend's toddler staying for the weekend and I'm already stuffed after just one day, she doesn't settle very well, she's 3 months older than Evie but much harder work!
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