I'm 26 and 5'6 and 65kgs and have just had a ultrasound and have just under 50 follicles on my ovaries! my hormones are all normal... just wondering what the difference is between PCOS and PCO and how having 50 follicles will effect my TTC? Any help would be great!! I'm a tad confused
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19-02-2011 12:03 #1
PCOS vs PCO
19-02-2011 12:23 #2
I was diagnosed with PCO just before I fell pregnant with my son. I had in excess of 17 follicles on each side at the time. Somehow I ovulated and fell pregnant. The ultrasound tech told me at my dating scan that by the end of the pregnancy the PCO would have gone away. It can/probably will come back, so we're ttc again in a couple of months (DS is 3 months).
I don't have much of an idea as to how they are different - only that you don't have any of the other typical symptoms of the sydrome - overweight/obese, excessive hair, acne etc. I'm sorry I'm not much help.
I am aware there's a medication beginning with M (Metformin?) that you can take to treat it. A lot of women with PCOS have fallen pregnant on this medication (maybe in conjunction with clomid). Are you seeing a fertility specialist?
19-02-2011 12:40 #3
I would love to know myself. For me it was difficult to fall pregnant (and stressfull) because I was starting to O around cd22-34. I am not sure if it can affect egg quality because it takes so long for a follicle to release an egg??
19-02-2011 12:43 #4Senior Member
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hi I have PCO but not PCOS. So my ovaries are cystic but I dont have any hormone issues. The drug the last poster mentioned Metforim is only used when there are insulin resistance issues associated with PCOS. Basically with PCO is that you devleop lots of follies each month but a lot of the time none of them mature enough to produce a viable egg that could possibly fertilize with sperm. So effectivley you are 'shooting blanks' every month
Clomid is a great treatment as it is progesterone based and will help produce a dominant follicle hence you will ovulate a matured egg (or possibly 2).
I have had 4 pregnancies with Clomid (2 angels in heaven, 2 angels on earth), no multiples either. Generally your doctor will moniter your cycle to make sure the dosage is right, its very simple its just taking tablets for 5 days of your cycle which your doctor would advise which day to start and finish. You can get some ovulation pain with clomid and also it can make you feel quite tired due to having your progesterone levels raised oh and weight gain can be a problem too but other than that I had no issues at all.
I have the added complication of having stage 3 endo which is now inside my uterus (so hysterectomy is my only option for a pain free life) so I did do a lot of clomid cycles but eventually did get preggas x 4
Good luck, feel free to ask questions if you have any
19-02-2011 12:55 #5
Thanks for all the answers, ATM i am 2 weeks late on my usual 28 day cycle. Hoping it dosn't take to long to concieve, I'm not seeing a FS yet as my dr wants me to wait 6 months. thinking I might start temping as I'm not sure if I o or not?
19-02-2011 16:01 #6
I honestly couldnt explain the difference to you, however I was diagnoised with PCOS about 6 years ago. I gained excessive weight, which even now is extremely difficult to lose, I am insulin resistant, have ache and excessive hair growth (much to my dismay). My cycles are generally all over the place, at one point i didnt have any cycle for 3yrs.
We TTC for 3 heartbreaking years, then I finally gave up, telling myself it wasnt suppose to be. My doctor was very unhelpful, telling me unless I managed to lose lots of weight I wouldn't be given any of the fertility drugs.(not sure on the costs either which may have become an issue!) That was around 18months ago... we have not long found out I am currently 10+2 weeks pregnant!!!!
From my understanding, I am one of the extremely lucky ones, managing to concieve naturally at my weight with PSOC is appartently rare.
Sorry for the long winded story, although I dont know alot about PCO in my experience you TTC shouldnt be effected. Wishing you the very best, for soon!
19-02-2011 17:34 #7
I am in the same boat. Seen a fs and he done an u/s told me I had polycisyic ovaries but that I "most likely" don't have pcos due to having no other symptoms. I of course turned to google and seen that you can't have one without the other, so automatically freaked out. But now I've just spotted this thread??
I know I ovulate cos I have been using opks but who knows if my eggs are viable *sigh*
soon find out I guess with my first cycle of iui.
19-02-2011 18:07 #8Senior Member
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From what i understand, you can have PCO without the syndrome, as you need at least 2 out of these 3 symptoms for PCOS to be diagnosed-
* Irregular or absent periods
* Polycystic ovaries on ultrasound
* Excessive male hormones (androgens) which can cause weight gain, hairiness, acne
I am tall and lean with no hair issues/acne and all my blood tests were normal, but as my period did not return after coming off the pill and an ultrasound showed polycystic ovaries, I was diagnosed with PCOS. The sonographer suggested that I might just have PCO as I don't fit the 'stereotype', but she was unaware of my menstrual history, and I was diagnosed by my gynae. I went to a fertility specialist (though my gynae would have prescribed), and was given provera to induce a period (as it was a no-show) then clomid to get me to ovulate.
I took 3 cycles of clomid (did not ovulate til my 3rd round) and had my twins in June last year!
19-02-2011 19:21 #9
As others have said, they are different conditions and can occur independently of each other.
PCO is poly-cystic ovaries. Literally meaning many cysts on the ovaries. This can cause fertility issues but is not the end of your hopes of getting pregnant. It is treatable and manageable.
PCOS is poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. Again meaning many cysts on the ovaries but also other symptoms as already described: unbalanced hormones is the main factor, this leads to loss of hair and/or excessive hair, acne, weight gain, fatigue, headaches, nausea and can contribute to depression. Like PCO though it is not the end of the road, there are still options for treatment both for those TTC and also those simply wanting to manage the symptoms.
19-02-2011 22:24 #10
Lovelymum, I just want to ask, if you 'shot a blank', does your body show signs of O about to happen (lh surge) and actually think it O'ed? Also where did you
get this info as for 2yrs I can't find that sort of explaination.
Also I was on Clomid, but would fall pregnant and miss carry at 4 weeks, my new Ob said I should have been on 100mg not 50mg. Maybe it wan't making the egg strong enough??
I ended up falling pregnant with better meds (gonal-F/ pregnyl).
That was ectopic, so then used IVF.
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