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    Mammalinz -Nick doesn't like to do back to back cycles (although he will let you if you really want to) so depending upon when AF is due I would have January off if it were me - he tells me that he tends to get better results when you have no drugs in your system at the beginning of the cycle although, if he is likely to do tests that he will need results for, this will hold things up anyway (I don't know whether you have any results to take with you to him or not).

    Wannabb - My low fertilisation is generally due to very few eggs due to my age although the most recent failure was due to immature eggs. Given what my FS has said, whatever is available I will get this time.

    TRH - Nice to hear from you again. Good luck with your FET's. When are you doing the next one?

    Jen42 - Looks like we might be cycling together in Feb. Hopefully we can spend the following 9 months together watching our embies grow into babies!

    Lilly40 - I am so happy for you that things are still going well. Make sure you find out all the risks of stitching versus not stitching prior to going ahead with it.

    Micca - hope all is still well.

    AFM - Just waiting

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    Hi girls,

    I haven't posted here in an age... it will take awhile to catch up on the gossip.

    I've changed clinics and have now had 5 weeks on DHEA with high hopes of some baby action in 2011. Feelin pretty glum now though as I'm on day 41 and according to my recent charting haven't even ovulated??????? Anyone else had this experience on DHEA? I have heard it can play havoc with cycle length (I'm usually about 24 days), but didn't expect it to be so dramatic??

    Overall I'm thinking that my bub no 1 was an absolute miracle and not sure I can pull it off again???

    Sorry for the sad 'me' post

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    Lilly40 – OMG, congratulations…..a little boy, how wonderful and Im so glad that he is doing really well. I think this will be the first boy for this thread!!
    Mum4Nay – Nice to see you back. I experienced long cycles, but mine was due to ovulating twice in a month. I have never heard that DHEA can affect cycle length. Don’t give up hope…..I had my best result last cycle and I put it down to DHEA, HGH and acupuncture….not pregnant yet, but my fertilisation rate was 75% compared to 25% with my first cycle. What does FS say about your long cycle? What does your ‘charting’ consist of…..have you had a number of blood tests throughout the last 41 days, as part of your chart? Interested to know how you think/know you have not ovulated during this time.

    Otgirl – waiting….waiting…..waiting – just think how much good work the DHEA is doing whilst you are waiting. It is good to hear that your FS is going to throw everything at you…..definitely take HGH, its worth it. Are you comfortable with everything that FS is doing and suggesting?

    Wannabb – What is lipoidal flush and scarifying lining? How will it assist with your IVF protocol? What is the thought/s behind it? Your appointment with Wazza on 24th is approaching fast now….I bet you cant wait.

    Micca – Thanks for all the information you posted....I was well armed with information for FS. How are you going?

    TryingReallyHard – Also nice to see you back. How are you going?

    Jen42 – How are you? How did DH cope with his TESA?

    everyone else.

    AFM
    Thanks for all your advice ladies, much appreciated.

    Well FS has put non-implantation or should I say attempted implantation down to 45 year old eggs…..he said that it would be more likely to be old eggs than immune issues.

    I managed to talk him into one more go with my own eggs, seeing as though I would have an approximate 12 month wait for donor eggs to come through. I am also taking advantage of all the DHEA and HGH in my system from my last cycle. I asked that he take the most aggressive approach to my next protocol (as it may be my last with my own eggs) and add in the Colorado protocol.

    So I will be sitting out a month (back on DHEA today) and then start cycle at Day 21.

    FS has me on the AACEP Protocol (Agonist Antagonist Conversion with Estrogen Priming) with maximum doses of Gonal F. AACEP Protocol is usually recommended for poor responders and even though I am technically not a poor responder, we are hoping the higher doses of Gonal F will produce more follies/eggs and the Estrogen Priming will improve egg quality…..as eggs 'thrive' in a high estrogen environment, estrogen pessaries will be used at the start of AF. Then, hopefully, the Colorado Protocol on top of that.....FS is still wary of the Colorado Protocol, but will research it more and take it to his board of directors if necessary.

    FS also suggested Assisted Hatching for my next cycle, as older eggs/embryos have a tougher ‘shell’ and this could be my implantation 'problem'.

    I think I will have another dose of HGH at Day 21, 2, 4 and 6.

    Hopefully, this will give me my BFP or enough good quality embryos for the freezer.

    I have another question - Im not sure what to put on my signature block……do I put BFP – chem pregnancy, BFN or ……..???
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    HI everyone,

    Sunny15 - thanks for the welcome back...
    In answer to your questions - I'll see the FS tomorrow so will hopefully know more then. As for ovulation, I (stupidly) haven't been consistantly doing BBT - basal body temp charting since I was using it in my 20's for contraception! I restarted again now hoping to find out a bit more about what my body is up to - or more correctly - what my body is not up to! There's lots of information on the net and in various books (pm me if you want more info), but basically, if your charts have 2 distinct phases ie. lower in the follicular phase and higher in the luteal phase then that's proof that you've ovulated. Mine currently is a mess of all the same low values - ie, anovulor.
    Sorry to hear aabout your chemical pregnancy. I'd call it a BFP cause at least it implanted, which is a great indicator for you and your future chances I would have thought!? Looks like this next cycle you're absolutely giving it all, so I'll have my fingers crossed for you and watch your updates closely
    What's HGH that a few people have mentioned ?

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    Thanks Mum4Nay....may just take you up on the PM.....of course, doing the natural thing until I cycle again.

    HGH (Saizen) is Human Growth Hormone....great stuff but expensive at $300 per injection, but I think its worth it. HGH is said to improve egg quality in older/mature eggs.

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    Afternoon ladies hope you are all well

    Sunny15 – Sounds like a great plan of attack Im praying the colarado dose the trick for you X

    Otgirl– nice to hear from you how long do you have to wait before you can cycle?


    Trying – have been thinking of you how are you lately have you been feeling ok?

    Wannabb – Never heard of lipoidal flush and scarifying lining? Good luck with your appointment on 24th

    Mum4Nay – good to see you back on the thread hopefully DHEA is doing its thing as we speak

    To all the other ladies on this thread would love to hear what you are all upto.

    Well yet another Drs appointment today and he has advised me to get the stiches asap so its all booked in for next Monday. We went through all the risks and in my situation the risks of not having it done are too high. There are still no guarantees even having this done so fingers crossed baby stays staff. I have told my OB who is a high risk specialist that I didnt come this far to loose my baby so Im putting all my trust in him. Saw bub again today jumping around very active so if thats any indication of what little boys are like think I will be in for a handfull of fun and energy. Think I will be having alot of sleepless nights leading up until Monday.

    Love to all the ladies no matter where your journey is upto. We have to keep our eye on the prize Im sure we can all get there Im cheering for all of us XOX Have a great night ladies

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    Hello ladies. Hope everyone is safe and not affected by the floods. They are truly devastating and such sad stories.

    Lily40 - great that you got to see bub jumping. You have come this far in your journey, and you do have to trust your OB. I hope the wait goes quickly for you till next Monday.

    Sunny15 - it does sound like a great attack plan, you are throwing everything at it! I am definitely a believer in the Colorado protocol, keep the pressure on your FS to let you do it. I know we have old eggs, but I understand your want to try again with your own eggs. Enjoy your DHEA and we'll be here cheering you on for your next cycle.

    Mum4nay - welcome back! I haven't had any change in my cycle whilst on DHEA, so sorry I can't help. When are you planning on cycling?

    Otgirl - can't wait to cycle with you. So good that your FS is willing to throw everything at this cycle, I'll be interested to see if the growth hormone gives you good results.

    Wannabb - DH is pretty good after his TESA, the only thing he asks is that he goes under for it. We did it once under local (this is his 7th time) and he was in SOOO much pain, that I promised him it would always be under general after that. Looks like there will be a few of us cycling in February, will be great to go through it together. Can I ask - what is the lipoidal flush and scarifying lining for?

    TRH - welcome back. What's your next plan?

    Micca - how are you feeling? Are you still working hard or did you manage to have a break over Christmas?

    Hello to everyone else.

    AFM - we got quite a lot from DH's TESA so the clinic were happy. Had my last Zoladex implant on Monday and now just waiting for next month, start jabbing on the 14th February. Not much else to report, just trying to be healthy. My DH got me a pretty cute Christmas present - she is a 6 month old rescue dog and is part Rotty part Labrador. I have to be honest, she has given me strength to know that if this cycle doesn't work, I will be able to move on and give up my dream for a child. She is pretty cute, but still a lot of puppy in her and she needs lots of training.

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    Hi
    Hope all those out there are not to badly affected by all the flooding. Have read several have had EPU cancelled today due to brisbane flooding.

    for those that asked about flushing and scarifying- apparently it had been noted that women who had fallopian tubes flushed to assess patency had improved pregnancy rate post this. lipoidal flushing is done on day 3 with hysteroscopy and uses oiyl substance. wazza also scarifies the lining at this time like 'raking' it for improved implantation. At least thats what i think appt was back in nov and memory has not been improved by Dhea unfortunately. Uterine Polyp was noted 2 cycles ago and seems to be getting bigger due to drugs so he will remove this at the same time so only 1 anaesthetic.

    Jen42- congrats on the puppy. not long til feb now. Glad DH was not too sore from TESA and lots of swimmers obtained.

    lilly40- good luck for monday. try to relax and not stress too much I agree you have come too far now this is a determined little bubba

    sunny15- I want to try HGH this time too but will only be able to do day 2 4 and 6. Do you think this will be enough or total waste of time? What is the earliest day of embryo they can do assisted hatching? YES do claim BFP as embie did start to implant. as devastating as it is it is a promising sign

    otgirl waiting s*^ks but some how we get to the next stage eventually

    mum4nay- I agree get blood test to see where you are up to so frustrating waiting for AF to start new cycle

    mammalinz, tryingreallyhard and to anyone i missed hope you are taking care of yourselves.

    AFM- waiting for next appt still. Up in Bundaberg at moment hoping all the water is gone to get to brissie on 24th. It is just devastating and mind boggling the sheer volume of water involved.

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    Hi girls,

    Sunny - thanks for the info re HGH - yikes, at that price I'd think twice!?? 3 injections is it??

    Lilly40 - good on you for getting your stitches - why not if it keeps your bub safer? Do you need a general anaesthetic for that? (forgive my ignorance). When are you due?

    Jen42 - Congrat's on your lovely new puppy - there's something so innocent and unwaivering about the love of a dog to it's owner (unlike 2 year olds HA HA!). Enjoy! Also, thanks for asking but I'll be cycling as soon as possible. I've only had 5 weeks of DHEA but FS says I can't afford to wait, and I agree! I'm going mental just waiting for AF to show!!?

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    Sorry for the me post coming....

    I had appointment with FS today and it's the first time I've had AMH test results - came back < 1. I'm not surprised but was hoping for a miracle (although I see my first born as an absolute total miracle now).

    Not sure what our next step is? I've been on DHEA for 5 weeks now and have stopped having periods altogether - he said it's my ovaries struggling.... We discussed egg donors but not sure whether DH or even myself is happy to go there, especially considering our first son would be genetically 'ours'.

    FS was happy to try with massive doses of gonal +/- HGH if I want (he didn't think the cost of HGH was justified), but in his experience he's never seen anyone AMH <1 get pregnant - and he's not young....

    I won't make any decisions right now cause it takes me awhile to process these things - but at present, I'm feeling I should quit and be happy with the gorgeous little boy that I already have.


 

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