May I please ask what plans you have in case of congenital abnormality? Say, for example an abdominal wall defect? They are rare, but I've looked after dozens of babies with one, and it's care of the exposed gut in the immediate post-natal period that make the difference between a baby with a working gut and one without. [wrap gladwrap round their middle and call and ambulance is probably the best thing to do]. A baby with something like a diaphragmatic hernia, 1 in 2,500 births, or PPHN, 1 in 2000 births, simply wouldn't survive, and although 1 in 100 babies are born with a congenital heart defect, not all are picked up antenatally anyhow, but there are a number of congenital issues where being aware of the possibility might make a difference in the unlikely event of giving birth to a baby with a problem.
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23-12-2010 19:48 #31
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24-12-2010 11:29 #33
Thermo - yay our differences in opinion have surfaced again hahaha. Birth is not safe. Before medical interventions 1 out of 8 women died in childbirth.
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24-12-2010 11:44 #34-
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I love that in a thread specifically for women to support each other with their choice to freebirth &/or have an unassisted pregnancy, that there are people who see fit to criticise their choices.
Women need to protect each other from the harm they may cause themselves and their babies by birthing in the way they feel is safest.
(PLEASE NOTE THE OBVIOUS SARCASM THERE )
Kymmy and BorntoBe, it is so lovely to read about your journeys. Please to continue updating this thread.
24-12-2010 11:46 #35
MrsDJ - I am not criticising anyone's "journey" or decisions. I don't particularly care what other people choose to do, it's not my place. Go BornToBe and her choice of freebirth! I just don't like incorrect information being out there for other impressionable people to read.
24-12-2010 11:51 #36Senior Member
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I was just coming in to ask the same thing as Emy and SPC.... what happens in the case of congenital abnormalities? I'm totally not having a go at you, I think free pregnancy and freebirth sounds so wonderful, and if I was to have another bub I would consider it, but I personally would probably opt for a short u/s to check for any abnormalities, so that if there are any life threatening problems, I would be prepared for it at birth, in hospital if need be. I think I'm probably worried about this because I have a close friend who had a bubby with major heart defects, it was picked up at her u/s, baby was whisked away at birth to go to NICU and operated on soon after to save her life. She would not have survived if she was born at home.
Anyway I know these things are rare and I'm not trying to change your mind or scare you, I was just curious as to how you weighed up the risks of u/s vs no u/s.
24-12-2010 12:03 #37
24-12-2010 12:16 #38
P.S. Another point even if you believe placenta praevia can be deteced that way, placenta accreta certainly can't be. Once again rare etc, but I just want to make the point.
Merry Christmas everyone!!
24-12-2010 12:23 #39
EmyN - but placenta previa gives OTHER signs, like bleeding, it's not just picked up on US. Many people, myself included, trust in their bodies and know when something isn't right.
I wasn't having a totally free pregnancy, but I was planning to freebirth at home with a Doula and my husband. I had bleeding, went to hospital, turns out it is placenta previa.
Free pregnancy and free birth CAN be safe and as long as women trust in their bodies to show them when something isn't right then it is safe. There is always the option to have their fears investigated further if they are worried about something, but pregnancy and birth don't have to be medical.
24-12-2010 13:02 #40
I'm sorry it hurts BF but that's how I feel about birth. Some babies and women die it's a fact of life and yes, I have had friends lose babies during birth.
I can't remember who said you can't detect the location of the placenta with a doppler but you can, you need experience yes, but it can be done.
1 out of 8 babies or women? I can't remember what was said, but that is a load of ****, maybe when birth became something people thought they had to 'do' something about yes, but there are a few studies done in tribes by OBs that show no deaths in birth for the period of time they were observed (2yrs from memory).
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