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    Default Hi Everyone,

    Georgiagirl- It’s difficult around the anniv for you both. I know it’s not easy, but have you look at ways of doing something special together when the day is here. Like plant a new tree in your garden at a spot to remind you of your little .

    Until, you are over your grieving process, going back to IVF so soon can make this more difficult for you. I personally find that you have to be mentally ready before cycling as the drugs causses your hormone to go a bit and you might drive DH insane.

    Sharni72- I know IVF costs do really add up very quickly and burned a deep holes in our pocket. But at least we can look forward to tax time and claims some back.

    Hopefully, this new home brings you new and positive energy for the coming cycle.
    It’s sux when you see people around you not even trying and yet they are pregnant.
    What I have learnt is to overcome my negative thoughts and fill this with positive one. That’s a good signs my turn will be here soon. I don’t feel jealous or feel hatred towards them. I sometimes talk to the pregnant ladies or play with the children for I know one day I will be blessed with one or two.

    Starfish- Since starting acupuncture I feel more relaxes and calm and even looks forward to every session. Even though, I’m scared of needles.
    I feel so bloated after my second day of injection. Normally, I don’t feel anything until day 8 or day. But lately, I’m constantly hungry and tired.

    Are you doing a full stim cycle or have you got some frosties to transfer back this time round?

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    Cannotgiveup, we have 1 frosty chillin' in the freezer, but would prefer to do a stim next cycle (I prefer to tx 2 at a time if I can). DH is away for a week in mid August so will really depend on when AF arrives and if DH is here. I think I will go ahead with the frosty if the timing doesn't work out...keen to move ahead!

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    Cannotgiveup - I had 12 cycles all up (9 EPUs). Every cycle I had a different response, 2 cycles were cancelled b/c of a lack of response to the drugs & also one where progesterone levels sky rocketed before pickup.
    From all this I had a chem preg on my 2nd cycle that ended at 5 weeks and the next one was a pregnancy which unfortunately was a m/c at 10 weeks. After that I had several failed cycles and had tried just about every type of cycle known. However upon doing loads of research on the net and from a lot of suggestions and support from this thread I approached my FS, several times before he would listen I will add, to try various things and demanded further testing because I really felt something else was going on to cause failed cycles. I already have PCOS which challenges things but the fact that I had got pregnant is what kept me going despite the m/c being THE worst time of my life I also felt that I had come this far that I 'cannotgiveup' now. After demanding further tests we found I have positive ANA antibodies which causes inflammation of the uterus and basically can attack embryos and stop them from implanting or if they do, cause a miscarriage. Prior to this b/c I was so adamant my FS put me on clexane even though nothing showed up that I had blood clotting issues, he decided to just 'try' it, however when I found out about the ANA's I requested to be put on prednisone (steroid) FS was reluctant but b/c he had basically said I was a hard case decided to agree to put me on it. (I think he was sick of my demanding attitude TBH). I finally fell pregnant on my 2nd cycle using clexane and prednisone combined. Other things I took or did differently on my last cycle were:
    Was taking DHEA for 12 months, I had noticed improvement in the quality of the embryos way before this & believe I would have got pregnant sooner if it weren't for the ANA antibodies,
    Took cartia asprin as well as the clexane (but FS didn't know this),
    Ate kiwi fruit everyday up until my 12th week,
    Used lucrin injections instead of synarel (I was not responding well to synarel),
    Also had small doses of pregnyl during the FSH stage to help boost my follicles & I had a record 21 of them after responding poorly previously,
    Took herbs (also against FS advise) which included False Unicorn Root after EPU which is suppose to help with implantation, the herbalist had picked up that I had an overactive immunity before I found out about the ANA's
    Took CoQ10 & zinc & pregnancy vitamins

    For the lutueal phase I had 3 pregnyl injections as well as the crinone support. I believe the stronger progesterone support the better, I continued to use crinone & pessaries combined up until 12 weeks b/c low progesterone caused my m/c.

    Also did regular acupuncture leading upto EPU and afterwards & continued during my pregnancy, I found a practitioner that specialises in infertility & she was fantastic, I really believe she helped me have a different mindset and I also tried some sort of meditation, listened to a relaxation cd everyday & visualised getting pregnant (something I've never been into) but I found it beneficial.

    So basically I thru everything at my last cycle which was a lot of drugs & injections, not b/c I wanted to give up but b/c it was going to be my last cycle, as I use donor sperm (doing the solo mum thing) and was using my last batch & can't get anymore. Thankfully it worked & I'm about to meet my little girl very soon.
    I believe having a proactive FS (but if you don't, become demanding like I did) and doing your own research is very beneficial to understand the processes and what can possibly work. Everyone is different and responds differently so I have never understood why clinics insist on the general protocols without looking into anything else. I had alot of resistance from my FS but my insistance thankfully paid off.

    I can't particularly pinpoint what kept me going doing all these cycles b/c in the beginning I was only going to try it the once, I just kept my eye on the prize and did it. I truly believe perserverance is the key. Somehow, as hard as it gets, I was just determined & could not accept that I was going to be childless. I also had great support from my family & close friends, without them I don't think I could have done it.

    One of the biggest & unfair downsides of ivf is that for some of us it can take longer than others to get it right & that we are not in control of what happens. We all want the same thing, no-one knows why it has to be so hard & why some people have to go thru more than others do. There is alot of heartache involved & for some dreams are totally shattered, we just have to roll with the punches & hope that our dreams & hopes never come to an end.

    Your turn will come, you have to really believe it.

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    Default Hi Kismet

    Thank you for sharing your stories. I’m so happy to hear that you have a happy ending. It's quite painfully going from one cycle to another and not getting any luck.

    I started off each cycle on a high and stay positive but the worse is when I start feeling the cramping after 2-4 days after ET.DH always assure me everything will be alright, but its always happen when AF arrive a day before BT or the morning before my BT. That's when I hit rock bottom and takes me weeks to grieve and overcome my sadness.

    When do you start taking Cartia aspirin and when do stop?
    About clexane, how many mg were you given and when do you start taking this and when do you stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kismet View Post
    Cannotgiveup - I had 12 cycles all up (9 EPUs). Every cycle I had a different response, 2 cycles were cancelled b/c of a lack of response to the drugs & also one where progesterone levels sky rocketed before pickup.
    From all this I had a chem preg on my 2nd cycle that ended at 5 weeks and the next one was a pregnancy which unfortunately was a m/c at 10 weeks. After that I had several failed cycles and had tried just about every type of cycle known. However upon doing loads of research on the net and from a lot of suggestions and support from this thread I approached my FS, several times before he would listen I will add, to try various things and demanded further testing because I really felt something else was going on to cause failed cycles. I already have PCOS which challenges things but the fact that I had got pregnant is what kept me going despite the m/c being THE worst time of my life I also felt that I had come this far that I 'cannotgiveup' now. After demanding further tests we found I have positive ANA antibodies which causes inflammation of the uterus and basically can attack embryos and stop them from implanting or if they do, cause a miscarriage. Prior to this b/c I was so adamant my FS put me on clexane even though nothing showed up that I had blood clotting issues, he decided to just 'try' it, however when I found out about the ANA's I requested to be put on prednisone (steroid) FS was reluctant but b/c he had basically said I was a hard case decided to agree to put me on it. (I think he was sick of my demanding attitude TBH). I finally fell pregnant on my 2nd cycle using clexane and prednisone combined. Other things I took or did differently on my last cycle were:
    Was taking DHEA for 12 months, I had noticed improvement in the quality of the embryos way before this & believe I would have got pregnant sooner if it weren't for the ANA antibodies,
    Took cartia asprin as well as the clexane (but FS didn't know this),
    Ate kiwi fruit everyday up until my 12th week,
    Used lucrin injections instead of synarel (I was not responding well to synarel),
    Also had small doses of pregnyl during the FSH stage to help boost my follicles & I had a record 21 of them after responding poorly previously,
    Took herbs (also against FS advise) which included False Unicorn Root after EPU which is suppose to help with implantation, the herbalist had picked up that I had an overactive immunity before I found out about the ANA's
    Took CoQ10 & zinc & pregnancy vitamins

    For the lutueal phase I had 3 pregnyl injections as well as the crinone support. I believe the stronger progesterone support the better, I continued to use crinone & pessaries combined up until 12 weeks b/c low progesterone caused my m/c.

    Also did regular acupuncture leading upto EPU and afterwards & continued during my pregnancy, I found a practitioner that specialises in infertility & she was fantastic, I really believe she helped me have a different mindset and I also tried some sort of meditation, listened to a relaxation cd everyday & visualised getting pregnant (something I've never been into) but I found it beneficial.

    So basically I thru everything at my last cycle which was a lot of drugs & injections, not b/c I wanted to give up but b/c it was going to be my last cycle, as I use donor sperm (doing the solo mum thing) and was using my last batch & can't get anymore. Thankfully it worked & I'm about to meet my little girl very soon.
    I believe having a proactive FS (but if you don't, become demanding like I did) and doing your own research is very beneficial to understand the processes and what can possibly work. Everyone is different and responds differently so I have never understood why clinics insist on the general protocols without looking into anything else. I had alot of resistance from my FS but my insistance thankfully paid off.

    I can't particularly pinpoint what kept me going doing all these cycles b/c in the beginning I was only going to try it the once, I just kept my eye on the prize and did it. I truly believe perserverance is the key. Somehow, as hard as it gets, I was just determined & could not accept that I was going to be childless. I also had great support from my family & close friends, without them I don't think I could have done it.

    One of the biggest & unfair downsides of ivf is that for some of us it can take longer than others to get it right & that we are not in control of what happens. We all want the same thing, no-one knows why it has to be so hard & why some people have to go thru more than others do. There is alot of heartache involved & for some dreams are totally shattered, we just have to roll with the punches & hope that our dreams & hopes never come to an end.

    Your turn will come, you have to really believe it.


    kismet, thanku for sharing ure story, ive had 17 fet 4 epu about to do number 5...uve given us new hope

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    Hi everyone.
    Thanks for the positive comments re m/c.
    Caught up with friends for a baptism today. Lots of babies again. They all tend to chat amongst themselves about their babies felt a bit flat.
    Suffering considerably from the Crinone. Headaches are the worst culprit and I'm only half thru my TTW. BT due 26/7.
    DH came home at 5:30am this morning from a night out at the footy with a mate. Blind drunk. Ughhhh!! What would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and I did that! I would never live it down.
    Spoke to my Naturopath re low dose aspirin he said yes it was a good idea and can't do any harm. He wasn't sure about the kiwis so I bought some anyway.
    Feeling a bit flat and depressed, yet another symptom of the dreaded Crinone so I really appreciate reading what you are all up to.
    Hope you are all going along ok.
    Thinking of you all.

    georgiagirl xxxx

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    Hi guys.
    Forgot to ask having trouble understanding some terminology.
    What's a chemical pregnancy?

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    Cannotgiveup - I started the clexane & asprin the day after EPU. I can't remember the exact dose of the clexane but they come in a box of prefilled syringes & I injected the full amount of each syringe each day. 40 units or 40mls or mgs comes to mind, not sure which one but you will be prescribed the correct dose if you are put on it. Once I got the BFP result I was told to stay on the injections until 14 weeks. I discontinued the asprin after the BFP result as instructed by the FN, they weren't too happy I was taking it, said it's not needed when you take clexane (not what I've heard from others that have taken it though), then I ran out of injections around 13 weeks & my OB told me to start the asprin again & I had to take this until my 36th week. I will tell you though that the clexane injections are not very pleasant, they do hurt and leave bruising as it is a blood thinner so bruises come easy. I used to ice the injection site first & this helped a bit. If you are prescribed the clexane make sure you ask for it to be PBS, it is about a 3rd of the cost, full cost was over $100 a box so can add up to quite a bit if you need to continue to take it a long time.

    It's hard not to be sad & disappointed when a cycle fails, we put so much into it including our emotions, a loss is a loss no matter what point it happens & it is important to have your grieving time. For IVFers it is easy to become in some way attached to the possibility of a pregnancy before most people even know they are pregnant b/c we know exactly what is happening etc. Each time I saw a picture of an embryo before it was transferred I saw a potential baby, not just a bunch of cells, so it was hard not to form an emotional attachment. Some of my cycles were difficult to deal with emotionally & some not so bad, it depends where your head is at during the time. I wouldn't say IVF took over my life but it definately became 'routine' & part of my life & something I felt I had to just deal with. When a cycle failed I found I had to grieve a couple of days, accept it and then move on, it was the only way. I did alot of cycles back to back so it was important to let go of the previous ones to deal with the next one if that makes sense.

    Each of us deals with this process differently, you can only do it the best way you know how. When it gets too much to deal with it's a good idea to have a break and collect yourself & when you're ready, get back on the roller coaster & hang on. I hope I've made some sense in offering how I dealt with the difficult times myself.

    Georgiagirl - a chemical pregnancy usually means something has tried to happen, i.e. implantation could have begun but for some reason didn't quite get there. It depends on what hcg levels where detected during a pregnancy test. When I had this happen I had a hcg level of 22 which I was informed could continue into a pregnancy but was not likely to & had a repeated blood test a few days later that indicated the level was going down therefore it wasn't a viable pregnancy & I got a heavy period a few days later. Sometimes the level can go up & you are required to have more blood tests to see if it continues. If it keeps rising there is a chance of a viable pregnancy. My clinic tells patients they are pregnant if the hcg level is over 30 in general & will still monitor the levels with regular blood tests until they are happy with the hcg levels. I had another result on another cycle where the hcg level was only 8, but they couldn't tell if this was left over from the pregnyl injection or if implantation tried to happen with the level being this low, they referred to this as a "biochemical" result.
    I'm not sure why they call it a 'chemical' pregnancy, but from what I understand & have been told it's b/c at the time of blood test you are only getting a hormonal reading (hence 'chemical') & a pregnancy isn't technically confirmed until you have your 1st scan & there is a heartbeat detected. Chemical pregnancies can occur in a natural conception as well, for example if someone that has regular as clock work periods & one month they are a few days or so late, this could indicate they have actually conceived but the period comes late b/c complete implantation hasn't taken place. Generally when this happens women have no idea that a conception may have ocurred b/c it's too early to detect a hcg level. I found this out by googling the internet b/c it was only partially explained to me by my clinic.

    Katiana - good luck with your next cycle.

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    Thank you so much for the information Kismet and your encouraging words. I have logged a call with FS last Friday to contact me back regarding to clexane as I have done 4 transfers without any success and each times I have 2 embies put back. I have appointment with FS on the 4th of August, but I don’t want to wait until then.

    I’m hoping he will get back to me this Wednesday.

    My acupuncturists highly recommend clexane due to many implantation failures and notice quite a few of his patients who were put on this protocol even though they do not have any problems have BFP.

    I’m willing to trying anything at this stage. My tummy is already bruises with the Gonal F injection and the orgalutran injections over the past few days.

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    Hi Everyone,

    Unfortunately, AF arrived this afternoon for me. I could hardly concentrate at work.
    I’m disappointment as to why it didn’t work this time. U/S shows that I have “triple line effect” apparently; this is really good lining, but why didn’t the emby attached itself???

    I ate kiwi fruite every day and took aspirin from the day of EPU. Also, have extra pessaries thrown in this cycle as well.

    Prior to that I have accpunture once a week until until EPU.

    I’ve booked another appointment to see FS this month to get some more infor.

    CGU


 

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