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06-07-2010 14:42 #11
20-07-2010 07:42 #12Junior Member
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Did you take DHEA during the luteal phase?
All you women who have taken DHEA - did you take it the whole menstrual cycle, even on cycle day 14-28, that is during the luteal phase?
Some say that it would hurt female embryos, others that it´s harmless to take even if you´ve become pregnant. What do you think?
I´m 44,5 years old and will try DHEA as Clomid and IVF won´t work (because my FSH is 19 cd 2).
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20-07-2010 08:06 #13
Yes, I take it in the luteal phase and think most women do. You need the level to build up in your blood, so 2 weeks off every month wouldnt do the trick.
It's been argued that there is a theoretical risk to female embies BUT:
1)this treatment has been available in the states for some years now and no abnormalities reported.
2) Women with PCOS have high DHEA levels and no problems with female babies.
3) DHEA is high in preg in general (the CHR clinic that pioneered DHEA describe the placenta as a "DHEA factory")
Having said that of course, the DHEA in those 2 examples is natural vs. the synthetic stuff we are taking.
I have to say I did worry about this, esp given the case of DES, a synthetic oestrogen given to preg women a few decades ago. Their daughters developed cancers later in life. This is probably what a lot of FS's have in mind. But with DHEA, you stop it as soon as you get a BFP, thereby (hopefully) minimising the risk.
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25-08-2010 18:49 #14Junior Member
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Hi Ladies. Hope this thread is still being followed.
So, following my last post, DH & I have decided to go down the donor sperm path. We are seeing Dr Anne Clarke from Fertility First. The only reason being FF is the only clinic in NSW who does not have a waiting period for donor sperm as they import rather than relying on local donors. They typically do not reserve but due to our situation (ie. being Asian) they allow us to pre-purchase the sperm of an Asian donor (there was only 1 on the list!).
The little guys are on ice until I start IVF cycle next month. Fingers & toes crossed.
Following our consult with Dr Clarke, I disclosed that I was taking DHEA. She advise against taking this hormone. And because I am cycling with her, I have agreed to go with whatever protocols, advice she gives. So, I now have approx 80 odd capsules left from my second script. Its still sitting in the fridge & I am happy to give it to anyone of you ladies who is currently taking it. Just PM me.
Is anyone currently having treatment from FF? Would love to hear your feedback.
25-08-2010 19:37 #15
Just interested in why Dr Clarke was not in favour of DHEA? I also did a couple of cycles with FF last year, however they weren't the clinic for me. I liked Anne but among other issues I found the clinic too busy and the waiting times for bt and scans quite long. I understand though they are excellent in regards to their donor sperm program. I hope your experience with them is different to mine and wish you lots of luck.
1 other question from me for the DHEA ladies, as it takes a number of months for DHEA to build up in your system can you do a FET while taking DHEA?
26-08-2010 17:27 #16Junior Member
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Hi Starf1sh. She is not in favour for a number of reasons. Mainly there is yet a actual published clinical trial study on DHEA (tho I understand it is available over the counter in the USA). Its also a synthetic hormone which is why in Australia it needs to be compounded by the chemist. She also mentioned that the side effects on female embies are still not known. My previous FS at IVF Australia also agree with her when I raised the question with him last year. But I was willing to try anything so following the MC in March this year, I changed to to SIVF who I know will prescribed me with DHEA. I would have stuck with them if not for the donor sperm issue as I understand their lab is the best.
Dr Clarke have also asked me to stop taking Evening Primrose Oil.
Yes, FF is very busy. I had to wait 8 weeks or so before I could get a consultation with her. But on the day due to an accident on King Georges Rd, I was running half an hour late! I almost cried when reception told me she is unsure if Dr Clarke can see me as she have other patients. Luckily, I managed to still meet with her. Phew!
23-09-2010 17:40 #17
Hello DHEA ladies
Any of you have any difficulties with insomnia? If so did you reduce dose or take it earlier in the evening? I have been on it for 2 weeks now (75mg) and having trouble gettting to sleep a couple of nights. No other side effects to report at this stage
23-09-2010 20:39 #18
No good about the insomnia I am truly paranoid about getting insomnia as I got it really bad whilst breastfeeding DD and i heard it was a side effect of DHEA. A while ago I read that someone said they take their doses in the morning (rather than spreading out doses during the day) to avoid the insomnia so I have started mine that way (started yesterday!).
I was prescribed 75mg but have started at 50mg to see how I go. Did your FS say 75mg was what he recommends? ( I haven't seen my FS yet to ask more questions about doseage etc).
Maybe someone else has more info too.
Lets hope it works for both of us
24-09-2010 08:29 #19
PB and Starfish, good on you for starting on the DHEA.
I had a few issues with insomnia when I first started DHEA. But I tend to be that way anyway and I started it in the summer, which is always a bad time for my sleep. I did change to mornings and I think that helped a bit (also less likely to forget it ).
Also, I took DHEA during a frozen cycle and that was the one that was successful...My reasoning was to keep it up in case a further stim cycle was needed.
Keep us updated on your cycles after being on the DHEA - hope it works well for you both.
24-09-2010 12:04 #20
Thanks Anemone, and massive congratulations on your BFP!!! Did you take the whole dose in the morning, & was it 75mg?
PinkB, I took the last dose at 6pm yest & didn't give me as much trouble sleeping as the prev night when I took it at 9pm. I emailed FS about it this morning & he suggested I continue the 75mg (as he originally prescribed) but take it earlier in the day. Hope it brings us both success very, very soon!
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