I went to a seminar with Maggie Dent, who said that alcohol use by pregnant women is the number one cause of mental retardation in children in the USA (sorry for the hideous term btw, her words, not mine)... I imagine Aust wouldn't be that different.
View Poll Results: Did you drink when you were (or are) pregnant?
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Yes - I drank the same as before pregnant and wasn't concerned
Yes - but only the odd glass every now and again
No - I made a decision not to drink at all for the health of my baby
No - I didn't feel like drinking whilst pregnant (nausea, etc)
No - combination of above, didn't feel like drinking and was concerned about my baby's health
30-07-2010 07:51 #71
30-07-2010 21:33 #72Member
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- Jul 2010
I've just voted because I did have the occasional glass of wine whilst I was pregnant with both of my boys... I did not feel guilty, I don't ever drink enough to be drunk. Incidentally, my boys are now 22 and 18 years old respectively... The eldest just graduated from University with honours. I am undecided what I will do if I ever conceive another (it's been a challenge!)
What I will say about it alcohol in pregnancy is this.
there is no SAFE limit because there is NO published quantative robust study to evidence this. All the evidence is anecdotal (ie based on what mothers told researchers about their drinking habits whilst pregnant, (who knows if their perception of their drinking was the reality) There will NEVER be this sort of evidence either because it would be unethical to give women who were pregnant varying amounts of alcohol and see which babies turned out with Foetal alcoholic syndrome or had some learning difficulties.
There is also the problem of the subset of misinformed and less educated who may be inclined to believe that if one is ok then 6 can't be that bad....
So it is the safe option to recommend that women Don't drink at all whilst they are pregnant. That way, there is no room for ambiguity.
The WHO has the following to say about drinking during pregnancy
Alcohol crosses the placenta to the baby. It can cause problems during pregnancy
and can also harm the fetus. It is not known whether or not there is any safe level
of alcohol consumption during pregnancy. Nor is it certain if any particular stage
of pregnancy is the most vulnerable to the effects of drinking. In the absence of
demonstrated safe limits, abstinence from alcohol during pregnancy is recommended
and should be encouraged.The rationale behind this may have something to do with the fact that Australians drink more alcohol per capita than the French
30-07-2010 21:42 #73
frankly, i cannot believe that anyone would even try to justify drinking whilst pregnant. we are pregnant for a few months out of our lives, surely we can put our unborn child first for these few months.
30-07-2010 21:50 #74Mum to beautiful Emily Rose
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i had 3 small glasses of wine on 3 special occasions during my pregnancy - christmas and 2 work functions. One of the occasions was actually 4 very weak champagnes (5mls of champagne & the rest lemonade) during our work Christmas party, as no-one knew I was pregnant yet & I didn't want to give the game away by appearing to not be drinking. A tiny bit of champagne with lemonade in a champagne flute worked a treat & no-one had a clue. Although a couple of people thought I was a bit odd insisting on buying my own champers all night when there was a free bar for 2 types of wine.
30-07-2010 22:03 #75
Nope, didn't touch a drop while I was pregnant with my bubby boy.
Wish I could say the same thing about my first pregnancy She's a healthy 8 year old now but it could of been a very different story due to the stupid things I did while pregnant with her.
30-07-2010 22:14 #76
i didn't drink while i knew i was pregnant.
in my entire pregnancy i had one can of pre-mix and one shot, though i was offered more.. something made me not want it. i found out a few weeks later that i was pregnant (i found out when i was over 2 months gone)
and, during my pregnancy, i had my graduation, end of exams, 18th birthday, christmas and new years.
31-07-2010 06:57 #77Senior Member
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I have to agree with loquaciousvibes's sensible view point on this one.
As for my own view, I've read lots of journals that suggest the most 'dangerous' period is from week 4 to week 10 in the pregnancy. Findings strongly suggest that binge drinking, or moderate drinking on a daily or nearly daily basis during this period can cause problems for the foetus, including FAS/E. This is not to say that all women who drink in that period always have children with disablities. Nor is it to say that drinking at other times in the pregnancy will not cause damage.
In my two previous pregnancies I had a small glass of wine with dinner probably twice a week on average throughout my whole pregnancy.
This time, I'm twelve weeks soon and based on my own research I may chose to have an odd drink here and there in my pregnancy, probably a glass of wine at Christmas and maybe a beer in the heat of summer. I'm confident that as long as my blood alcohol level remains low and I don't get 'tipsy' that my drinking won't adversly affect my baby.
Go ahead and criticise me and get your knickers in a twist about women who can't abstain for the sake of thier baby, it's only nine months yadayad, if the mood takes you. I don't really care about judgements from people on a forum. I don't see my decision to have a glass of wine as a risk, which is why I don't have a problem with it, in the same way that I drink caffinated tea and (horror of all horrors) eat chocolate with trace amounts of caffine while pregnant and while breastfeeding.
31-07-2010 11:45 #78
With DS1 I didn't find out I was pregnant until 12 weeks, I was severely underweight and my periods were very funny. I was drinking every Friday/Saturday night, when I found out I was pregnant I stopped drinking/smoking straight away....I felt so bad Luckily he was fine!
With DS2 - nope didn't drink/smoke at all.
02-08-2010 16:02 #79-
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I wasn't even aware that caffeinated tea, chocolate and coffee was a complete no no either during pregnancy. The midwife never told me. Even though I did mention my diet to her.
I thought that the above mentioned beverages, within limits, were fine.
During my pregnancy I drank 1 cup of tea every other day and coffee maybe 3 cups a week. Chocolate? I didn't eat much of that tbh and still dont. I might've had the occasional chocolate bar once a fortnight.
When I was exclusively breastfeeding, I had 1 cup of coffee every morning, because I was exhausted from getting up all night to feed bubs. Noone else fed him for me, nor did anyone else help me take care of him during the day either. Im a single mum.
7.5 Months later and I still have my morning coffee, even though DS has been sleeping 12 to 14 hours since 4 months old and I've been averaging 8 hours a night myself.
Its the one pleasure I allow myself. I dont even exclusively breastfeed anymore. He gets just 1 breastfeed in the morning, which is caffeine free as it is before my coffee. I haven't had any alcohol since I had 1 small glass of white wine at 3 months and 6 months pregnancy.
DS was 3.5 weeks prem, but that was because of a rare pregnancy illness I had in the last 5 weeks of my pregnancy.
He is now a happy and very healthy 7.5 month old boy. Every time we go out, I have total strangers coming upto me to tell me what a happy and content little boy he is.
He's not a crybaby. He's very happy and active. He's too busy to cry and Im very blessed to have such an easy bub.
Mind you, he'll probably be the toddler from hell
Soooo those 2 glasses of wine and the occasional coffee, tea and choccie I ate, have not harmed him in the slightest.
(Although Im sure a lot of women here will think I just have been lucky to win my game of Russian Roulette).
Though I am very sorry to hear people have had bad experiences after having a few little sins of their own during their pregnancies.
But this is my own personal experience.
Next pregnancy, I dont think I'll do much different.
Although Im not usually an alcohol drinker, so those 2 glasses of wine were because of very very very special occasions. Therefor I dont think I will have any alcohol during my next pregnancy. Unless there will be more very special occasions, but I doubt it.
Now Im going to make myself a cuppa tea and Im handing my soapbox to the next person to judge us naughty people who try to justify our heavy drinking during pregnancy.
Im going to unsubscribe from this thread. Noone here will ever see eye to eye, so why bother reading all these opinions?
04-08-2010 07:21 #80
I chose 'No, for the health of my baby" but, I don't drink anyway so it really wasn't a choice I made.