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    Default 5yr old speech disorder

    not quite sure where to start, i have been up all night thinking about the right thing to do..

    My youngest is 5 this week and is in preschool due to start grade 1 - next jan. He has always had speech problems - which i looked into when he was younger, both his brother and him are 11 months apart and both had speech problems but different. we looked into it earlier for each of them both have had their hearing test and the older one now 6 talks and can be understood, he does howerver, have a lot a learning difficulties in year 1 this year (which we have been working hard on and he is improving heaps).

    But the 5 year old still can not be understood by others, i think he is being picked on at preschool - he is such a loving and sensitive child that he is now crying more but still loves to go to preschool. I am worried if his speech doesn't get better before the start of grade one that he will get worse with his confidence and this will effect his friendships to come later. He started speech therapy 13 months ago, and he has improved tremediously but people still can't understand what he is saying.

    I just don't know what the right thing to do is....

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    Hi Leisa. for you and your boy. I'm so glad he still wants to go to school, that's great.

    I don't really have any advice, but I can say that our neighbours boy has been through the same thing - he too is in pre-school and even his dad had trouble understanding him (even his 2 year old brother speaks clearer than him sometimes), but he was quite hard to understand and as if it happened overnight, he started to improve out of sight.

    He had a few speech therapy (or pathology as they refer to it here) sessions as did my daughter (for certain letters and sounds) and slowly improved and then, once again, almost overnight it improved heaps.

    As your son has had quite a lot of sessions, maybe speak with his therapist and she what they suggest. You probably already have, but perhaps his teacher this year can help out or offer some suggestions to help?

    Good luck and I hope it all goes well.

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    Hi Leisa,

    Both my boys have speech problems, my youngest is 4 1/2 and is very hard to understand. He has been in speech since he was 2 things are slowly improving. He has repeated 3 year old kinda this year and will go onto 4 year old in 2007. I decided to keep him in kinda for the extra year due to his speech and a couple of other things. One of the benefits of this is he gets an extra year of speech therapy, where he goes to speech once they start school they have to go through the education dept. this has quite a waiting list.

    I can understand your concerns with his confidence and friendships I see my son going through the same, kids start to play with him but because they don't understand him eventually they give up and move onto something else. This is just starting to effect his confidence now so we are working on ways to help him be understood.

    Hope everything works out for you.

    Tanya
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    Luke 4

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    Hi Leisa

    I think you should go to a speech pathologist and get him assessed straight away, I would not leave it personally. You could get a recommendation from your preschool teacher or another parent. Best to go to one that specialises in children.

    My daughter recently did some speech therapy as she was having trouble articulating blends. So truck was fruck and drink was frink. It made a big difference over a short time. It was a habit rather than a developmental issue so we had to break the habit. The speech therapy wasn't particularly cheap but I think for my daughter it was money well spent. She speaks so much more clearly now and it has done her confidence so much good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfin View Post
    Hi Leisa

    I think you should go to a speech pathologist and get him assessed straight away, I would not leave it personally. You could get a recommendation from your preschool teacher or another parent. Best to go to one that specialises in children.

    My daughter recently did some speech therapy as she was having trouble articulating blends. So truck was fruck and drink was frink. It made a big difference over a short time. It was a habit rather than a developmental issue so we had to break the habit. The speech therapy wasn't particularly cheap but I think for my daughter it was money well spent. She speaks so much more clearly now and it has done her confidence so much good.
    Elfin, we have had him under a private speech therapist for 18months now and he has improved. He is intelligent enough to go to grade 1 - but he is now being picked on by the other children and has no friends as they seem to give up understanding him. He thinks they are all friends with him, but i have been told they they are teasing not being friendly, i guess it is hard for a 5 year old to distingush between the two. We have certainly tried everything we can think of, we had his hearing tested and referred to a ENT specialist - everything being fine. That is when we started the speach 18 months ago, Don't get me wrong he is improving but he still need a lot of interpretting.

    Leisa

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    Leisa, I apologise, I didn' t read your post closely enough and didn't realise that your son was already having speech therapy. If he is having speech therapy I really don't have any advice. What does his preschool teacher think? Can she suggest any thing else?

    I just wish your little guy all the best and I am sorry i misread your post

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    My 2nd son has speech delays as a result of two factors, glue ear for which he has had grommets three times and he also has NF1 one of the associated factors of which are speech problems.

    With Blue he barely spoke until he was 2 and was always well behind the milestones such as when they put X number of words together and when they used certain types of words such as possessives. He also mispronounce a lot of sounds which made him even harder to understand.

    We started speech therapy at 2.5yo but I was not happy with her methodology. She was trying to correct his speech sounds whereas to us the most important thing at that stage was for him to actually speak more.

    We left it for about 12 months and then went to a new ST. She was wonderful. She did a full assessment of him and identified exactly where he was at in a number of facets of his speech including language, pronounciation, comprehension, vocabulary etc. She then asked us what were our key areas and we said at that stage we wanted him to increase his vocabulary so he could tell us what he wanted, as he used to get terribly frustrated. She tried a couple of sessions with him but he was not very cooperative. The testing she had done had put him in the "impaired" area - well below the normal range - and as such he qualified for SEDU. She got us a place here and it was great. They taught him some sign language (maketon) although we never used it but more importantly they taught him to sit down, listen, do tasks and to find other ways to communicate his needs without getting overly upset.

    Anyway fast forward a couple of years and he has turned 5. By this stage he is speaking quite a lot of works and his ST has moved onto working onto other aspects of his speech. We decided to put him into prep rather than grade one even though he would turn 6 that year. It was the best thing we did. There were a couple of other children in the class who also turned 6 that year so he wasn't the only one - but more importantly he got another year of getting those speech groundings and a really nice slow introduction to phonics and letter sounds.

    He is now 7 and will finish grade one at the end of this year. He still has speech therapy but it is mostly complex sound combinations and some comprehension tasks she is working on. He is now in the normal range for all aspects of his speech - although on the low side of normal for a couple of the areas he is now actually above average for a couple of them. Also with his reading at school he is one of the best readers in his class.

    My recommendation would be to get at least your younger and possibly both your sons fully assessed by a speech therapist if she hasn't already done this. You probably realise that language is more than just speech sounds. The speech therapist cannot fix everything at once and even if she gives you all the practice tasks to do this your son probably could not take it all in. You need to identify what aspects of his whole speech profile you want worked on first. It may be that you are happy for him to have a smaller but clearer vocabulary, if this is the case let the ST know. But even on speech sounds there are heaps of them that have to be worked through and lots of little mouth and tongue muscles that have to be retrained to work in the right way. Blue has been doing speech sounds for over two years now and he still has an obvious mispronounciation of certain sounds; and every now and then we have to go back and rework some old ones when he gets lazy. Currently we are doing words that end in the "ft" sound but we have had to rework "r" which he is mispronouncing as "w" - wun for run etc. It is a long process.

    With your younger son I would also strongly recommend you consider putting him into prep next year (if they have it where you are) rather than grade one. If I had put Blue into grade one straight away he would have floundered and not achieved what he has.

    Good luck.
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