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    Chook- wonderful news honey!

    MMM- thinking of you today.

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    Thanks everyone for your thoughts and good luck wishes - you are all so lovely .

    Well today was a bit of a non event. Got the 6am bus down and got to the hospital early. They were lovely - took one look at my referal and put me straight in to see mr ultrasound an hour earlier than my appointment. Much better equipment than last week, and I could clearly see the heartbeat. It had slowed to 95 from 120 last week and the little emby had grown about 5 days worth in a week, but is still over a week behind in growth. The yolk sac is way too big now. The scan man explained that the connection between the yolk sac and baby is too narrow and not enough nourishment is getting through. The embryo will die soon, but is clearly a fighter for now. I have a repeat scan on Monday. I don't want to do a D&C until there is no heartbeat so just have to wait for nature to do it's thing. He did say that it isn't over until the fat lady sings as he put it, but did dictate that he considers the pregnancy will no longer be viable shortly.

    So, you guys are still stuck with me until then. DH is waitlisted to get here on Saturday or Sunday at the latest. He is calling the emby Rocky due to it's fighting ability. I'm feeling pretty upbeat for now - seeing DH will be great even though I anticipate some thoughtless comments. I know he doesn't really mean them and would be feeling sad right now about the baby and helpless that I have to go through this again.

    After my scan I headed into the city and bought myself some ridiculously expensive but oh so delicious Jo Malone perfume, plus a couple of totally impractical for pregnancy tops. Amazing the power of retail therapy on my mood, as well as the escape from fruit loop MIL.

    Chook - that is fantastic news!

    Jess - tugging, pulling movements are completely normal - the grapefruit has to make room somehow.

    Kitz - again those pains are the norm. If you really want another scan could you see your GP for a referral? Or even just see if the scan place would see you for a repeat? Where I went today said I didn't need a referral to come back on Monday.

    Again - thankyou all so much for your support. It was so lovely to get home and log on and see all your messages.

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    letsbepositive is offline Please please pretty please can we have another baby
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    MMM - I'm really sorry to hear that the HB has dropped since the last scan. I'll keep praying for a miracle for you.



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    MMM - Sorry that it's not good news but like you said, it isn't over until it's over. You really do have a fighter in there. I'm also hoping for a miracle for you.

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    letsbepositive is offline Please please pretty please can we have another baby
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    MMM - I was lost for words when I wrote my last post and still a am a bit but just wanted to say how brave you are and what a wonderful person you are to be offering kind words of support and reassurance to others when you are going through such a stressful time yourself. Please take care. xxx

    Chook glad to hear the tear is almost healed and bubs HB was good.

    Hi to everyone else - I'm not sure if we'll have internet access on the Island where we are going so I'll be back Tuesday night if you don't hear from me before then.

    Take care everyone.
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    MMM - to you and your little bub. Sounds like bub is trying so much. You are such a strong girl, and I really wish that bubs would stick in there and surprise us all, as long as there is a heartbeat there is hope.

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    MMM- to you. Did they say how big the yolk sac was? I'm just reading the summary of an article that says that the largest yolk sac in viable pregnancies that were studied was 8.1mm which is pretty big! Also says that the regression of a yolk sac is a better indicator for early loss. Here, i'll post the summary....

    The quality and size of yolk sac in early pregnancy loss
    Fu-Nan CHO 1 , San-Nung CHEN 1 , Ming-Hong TAI 2 and Tsung-Lung YANG 3 1 Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 2 Department of Medical Education and Research and 3 Department of Radiology, Kaohsiung Veterans General Hospital, Kaohsiung, Taiwan
    Correspondence: Dr Fu-Nan Cho, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Kaohsiung Veterans General Hospital, 386 Ta-Chung 1st Road, Kaohsiung, Taiwan 813. Email: fncho@isca.vghks.gov.tw

    DOI: 10.1111/j.1479-828X.2006.00627.x


    Copyright © 2006 The Authors
    Journal compilation © 2006 The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
    KEYWORDS
    gestational sac • miscarriage • pregnancy loss • transvaginal ultrasonography • yolk sac

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    Background: Accurate differentiation between normal pregnancy and pregnancy loss in early gestation remains a clinical challenge.
    Aims: To determine whether ultrasound findings of yolk sac size and morphology are valuable in relation to pregnancy loss at six to ten weeks gestation.
    Methods: Transvaginal ultrasonography was performed in 111 normal singleton pregnancies, 25 anembryonic gestations, and 18 missed abortions. Mean diameters of gestational sac and yolk sac were measured. The relationship between yolk sacs and gestational sacs in normal pregnancies was depicted. The yolk sacs ultrasound findings in cases of pregnancy loss were recorded.
    Results: In normal pregnancies with embryonic heartbeats, a deformed or an absent yolk sac was never detected. Sequential appearance of yolk sac, embryonic heartbeats and amniotic membrane was essential for normal pregnancy. The largest yolk sac in viable pregnancies was 8.1 mm. Findings in anembryonic gestations included an absent yolk sac, an irregular-shaped yolk sac and a relatively large yolk sac (> 95% upper confidence limits, in 11 cases). In cases of missed abortion with prior existing embryonic heartbeats, abnormal findings included a relatively large, a progressively regressing, a relatively small, and a deformed yolk sac (an irregular-shaped yolk sac, an echogenic spot, or a band).
    Conclusion: A very large yolk sac may exist in normal pregnancy. When embryonic heartbeats exist, the poor quality and early regression of a yolk sac are more specific than the large size of a yolk sac in predicting pregnancy loss. When an embryo is undetectable, a relatively large yolk sac, even of normal shape, may be an indicator of miscarriage.




    Hmm..not sure if that is helpful or not, but it gave me a lot of hope for you and your bubba. As you have said earlier, your DS was a miracle bub, and there's no reason why this bub can't be too!
    Enjoy your shopping today honey, you deserve it!

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    MMM - i agree with the other girls....its not over yet, there still is hope! I agree your susch a strong and brave woman. Still sending you all the and in the world honey.

    Chook - So glad to hear that things are going ok with you!

    LBP - have a fantastic time away!

    kitz, bosco, nic, bambi, jess, MK, smoore and anyone else i missed

    2 1/2 weeks til my bone scan - you guys are going to get sick of me lol. The worry is starting to set in now. I will be 14 weeks on tuesday and im starting to over analyse everything. Im feeling bubba 'flutter' away in there but no definative kicks just yet (i know its obviously way too early) but i just cant help myself thinking the reason why i cant feel 'kicks' yet is cause bubbas bones are breaking. Arghhh im going to do my head in!!

    Have my ob appt at the hospy this morning, not sure if i will get a scan or not - guess we'll see. Have a great day everyone.

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    Moo - you are so amazing - as is Rocky! I don't really know what to say... miracles do happen and I am still holding out for you. Glad to hear DH will be with you soon.

    MrsShe - we will never get sick of you!!! Flutter away bub flutter away! Hope you get a scan today! 2 1/2 weeks - well can't say it will fly by but it will come!


    Kitz - I had another BT today and I guess if it is all normal then it will be no more pessaries for me!! When is your scan again?

    Nic - you are a book of information! Hope you are going well and that your daughter is giving you a few good boots!!

    LBP - Have a great time on the island!

    Hi to Boscosmum, Smoore, MamaKoala and anyone else I have missed!

    Went to my GP yesterday for a flu injection - weird they recommend you get that in early pregnancy now and was telling GP about feeling heavy - she asked the usual questions - bleeding, cramping etc and the pulled out this stethoscope thing with like a little prob on the end and said "I'd like to try and listen for a HB but don't stress if I don't hear it as its very common not to be able to pick it up this early" after less then a minute of listening she gave me the and let me listen! It was bliss...

    Hope you are all well

    to us all

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    Thought I'd finally pop in here! YAY! I got my BFP on Monday and have been a bit nervous to head in here. I have a repeat BT on Monday just to make sure my HCG levels are rising. I have also booked in for a 7 week scan which is in just under 2 weeks time. Im very nervous & have ceased BD for fear of starting bleeding (I bled for 6 weeks prior to losing my angel).

    MMM - wow! you're such a strong woman. Praying for a miracle for you!

    Mrsshe - hope your ob appointment today goes well. Can't wait to feel flutters!!! Hope you start getting good kicks soon!

    to everyone else!


 

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