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    If you do a google search for "donor conception support group au" you will find a great Australian website that has a lot of information on it.

    They also have a great list of suggested reading, some of which you'll find in the public library system.

    AED is also another site with LOTS of information - you'll find links to it in the stickied information...

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    Question Re: Egg donating / "selling" ???

    Hi... i know in America etc that women are paid $5000-$10000 or more for donating their eggs to a couple... I am wondering if that is the 'done' thing in Australia too? (as well as medical costs being paid) ....& if so, is it legal to 'sell' them... ?? I havent read anything on here about anyone being 'paid' to donate their eggs.. & didnt know if its just an 'unspoken' obvious agreement... or if the eggs are simply a 'gift' from the donor.. & only medical expenses paid..???

    I think a substantial sum of money could compensate for the physical risks etc of being a donor... SO..anyway.... can someone please enlighten me on this issue???... thanks xo P.S.. I live in Perth (WA) Australia
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    Payment for eggs is illegal in Australia.
    The recipients are able to compensate the ED for any petrol costs, to & from medical appointments, childcare, parking costs & any time lost from work.
    ED is an altruistic act in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonchalantsister View Post
    Hi... i know in America etc that women are paid $5000-$10000 or more for donating their eggs to a couple... I am wondering if that is the 'done' thing in Australia too? (as well as medical costs being paid) ....& if so, is it legal to 'sell' them... ?? I havent read anything on here about anyone being 'paid' to donate their eggs.. & didnt know if its just an 'unspoken' obvious agreement... or if the eggs are simply a 'gift' from the donor.. & only medical expenses paid..???

    I think a substantial sum of money could compensate for the physical risks etc of being a donor... SO..anyway.... can someone please enlighten me on this issue???... thanks xo P.S.. I live in Perth (WA) Australia

    You need to have a read of the stickied information at the top of this section. Under the Human Tissue Act, payment for human tissue (and that includes eggs) is illegal and punishable by jail or a hefty fine.

    You can have your medical and travel costs reimbursed, but that is all.

    Also - TBH, the physical risks to a donor are very small, and IMO they don't need such large monetary compensation
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    Question Id love to hear other opinions...

    Yeh I did read that section,,, strait aftr I sent it... !! Thsnx 4 replyn anywy....
    I jus find it hard 2 believe that these couples who are so desperate, & obviously feel a huge hole in their life without a child & (quote "would give anything"... etc ...wouldn't be prepared or consider 'buying' a donors eggs..!!! However, Im sure it probably does happen sometimes in Aust. regardless of the law... & although I respect that it is illegal here, I disagree with that law.. Firstly, because I think (especially after reading so many of your 'stories'...(& my heart goes out to all..& has brought tears to my eyes...& i have also smiled & felt joy for those with happy endings too!!) ...But I think donors would not be so 'few' if a couple who was financially secure (for example: after following their career & postponing the decision to have a child until it was too late for them..) & when the years are ticking over while on a waiting list for a donor, Im sure many miss out, while the option for them to 'buy' a younger womans eggs would no doubt be insentive for a lot of 'would be' donors, who, (I truly believe, as in my case) have their heart in the right place & would love to give the 'right' couple the gift of having a child of their own... & the joy of 'their joy' to help their dream come true, no doubt would be priceless... & I think the whole 'modern' thing with meeting & 'getting to know' the parents & getting to know each other.. waiting 4 the 'click' u talk about etc..& the 'open' & natural way that the kids (& donor) are allowed (& encouraged) to be curious & even meet (or even keep contact) etc ..anyway...u know what I mean... & I think all that is beautiful & important etc (for all involved...esp. the child).. & (persnally if I were 2 donate) I wouldnt have it any other way... (so please dont get me wrong in saying all this...as I wouldnt believe in jus anyone 'flogging' off their eggs by the dozen carton for some quick cash or anything.. & im sure if laws were changed 2 make it legal that it may sttract these types...so careful screening would obviously b a priority..) ...HOWEVER...although I would love to donate (& im sure many other considering donors feel the same & probably why many pull out at the last minute..no doubt causing the anticipating couple much heartache) ..but at 'crunch time'..the whole process. in regard to the time commitments (often with a family & kids of their own, even work etc..) .. even only minor medical risks involved.. as well as (i can imagine) feeling 'under pressure' - that your eggs will be suitable etc & anxiety, concern that you may let the couple down... & basically ius the overwelming "reality" of the situation - as im sure 'talking about it', 'wanting to do it' etc are all good as far as intentions go - & saying its an "altruistic" act in Aust. is a lovely thought in 'theory'..but the 'reality' in the lack of Aust'n donors...... Anyway, i hope I have explained myself properly, as I know i am truly coming from the heart... & I think a monetary 'gift' of only a few weeks salary for some..or even a few months...would certainly be a 'pittance' to many in exchange for the gift of a child of your own to enjoy & cherish fr a llifetime.. Anyway,the fact is, we ARE all human...& this is just my 'personal' view... & Im sure there are others (both doners & recipients) who would agree... & if anyone feels either way.. id be intersted to hear your views on the matter... but AGAiN, let me assure u that I have only become passionate about this being an option for couples after seeing how many of them there are out there who seem to be consumed by their desire to have a child.. & obviously a slightly-selfish incentve may be what would convince the head to follow the heart for the donor. ....well, bye & best of wishes & prayers to all of you... xoxo
    P.S.. obviously i realise the law is the llaw & am not about to go try & change it... but jus curious for arguments sake how others feel.. ??
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    nonchalantsister - Australian law does not allow payment for any sort of tissue donation: blood products, stem cells, bone marrow, organs, sperm or eggs.

    I agree that a financial incentive may increase the number of people willing to donate, however, it can also increase the number of people who scam, cheat and abuse the system. In the USA where payment for eggs & sperm is allowed, there is also a thriving industry of stealing & selling body parts - bones, organs, etc. I would hate to see the same happen here. I would also hate to see a well deserving couple miss out on having a child because they have to bid against others for egg donors - a 'pittance' to some is completely unaffordable to others. The cost involved in IVF is already so high that many couples cannot afford it. Finally, what sort of price do we put on a human life?

    A full discussion on the pros & cons of tissue sales, including eggs, is probably worth its own thread. Feel free to start one.

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    You might be surprised to learn how many egg donors there are in Australia, and how many women do actually donate eggs. There is a good number here on Bubhub alone - and most of those do not advertise/flaunt the fact that they have or are about to donate.

    The fooey that women who need donor eggs hear about donors being scarcer than hen's teeth is not true -yes, clinic waiting lists are long, but that's because clinics treat donors averagely and prefer them to be anonymous only. The reason why most donors don't like this clinic-only based option is because that people have learnt from the past mistakes of society and are wanting to make a donor conceived person's life easier in allowing them the information about who they are and where they came from in an open and unassuming manner (think about all the people who were adopted as babies who had no idea they were adopted, and the upheaval a lot of them went through when they discovered they were adopted, but could not get any information about their biological parents)...

    I also agree with Chickadee - when the average IVF cycle in Australia is between $6-10K PER CYCLE, it would make it almost unaffordable for most people. And given that there are no guarantees in life, and even less guarantees in IVF, it seems cruel to receive/ask for money for something that does not come with a money-back guarantee.

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    For many women delaying children is not a 'lifestyle' choice. I spent 10 years of my life trying to conceive & spent many thousands of dollars in the process. IVF is expensive. I was lucky thay my cousin agreed to be my ED & my DD was the result. She would not accept a cent from me. I tried to give her some petrol money on a number of occassions (she lives in the country) but she refused to accept it.

    I am a member of AED also & many women have reported finding their ED on either bubhub or AED, so there are many kind hearted & generous women out there.

    Of the many stories I have read about infertility, two factors stand out.
    One, women have met their partner later in life & unfortunately their eggs are too old.
    The second is women, like me have spend many years & many dollars on the 'baby making' journey.

    I am not wealthy. I work part time so that I can spend time with my DD. I truly could not afford to pay an ED. The costs of IVF are almost unaffordable as it is.

    For me, I would not want to tell my child that I paid someone to help Mummy have a child. I much prefer to say that a wonderful, giving woman helped Mummy have a baby and I will always be grateful to her.

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    Ditto with Elwoodgal.

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    Default New to this site

    Hi Everyone,

    I am new to this site and so hopefully I am doing this correctly. I have read through the information that was put up but still have alot of questions.

    I have recently been asked to donate eggs to a close relative. She is tyring for her 2nd child but with her new Husband and unfortuntley IVF hasn't been successful for them as her eggs are too weak. She is only mid 30's but we have a family history of early menopause.

    I haven't started my family yet as I am only early 20's so my first question is...if you become a donor does the process you undergo with all the hormones and injections affect your ability to have children?

    Looking forward to your replies.
    Helping Family.


 
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