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    I only really want people who are on board with sleep training to read and respond to this thread please.
    What do you do when your little one goes through a bad spell such as teething or a cold and their sleep goes to pot? Do you
    1. Try to alleviate the problem ie give some panadol, unblock nose etc and then stick with usual method of sleep training such as cc or cio.
    2. Give in (such as feed, rock, cuddle to sleep) as they seem to need the extra comfort but know that it will set their sleeping back majorly and will take a while to get back on track later?
    I'm just finding it really hard to stay consistent when it seems that ds2 needs the extra comfort while he's feeling unwell but I know that giving in a tiny bit makes things so much harder later. For example usually he goes to sleep in his cot with no fuss or crying but after a couple of days of a cold he wouldn't settle at all for his nap today and I ended up holding him so he could as least sleep. I know now that tonight is going to be an absolute nightmare (last night it took about 20 mins for him to go to sleep) but wondering if I just need to do what needs to be done for a few days then deal with the consequences then?
    What do others do?

  • #2
    I stopped sleep training with my first when she was ill.

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    • #3
      DD has had a couple of things (like sickness) that have come up lately and we definitely relaxed. We're not "training" as much as we're "maintaining" these days but we still try and stick to our original sleep plan as much as we can.But she's been miserable and needed more hugs, so we let her snuggle with us on the couch before bed, she slept with us one night etc. Now she's been we had a couple of tough(ish) nights where she woke a few times and tried to get up, but we went back to the sleep routine and she's back to normal again now

      Edited to add my post makes it sound like I don't cuddle her haha I totally do! Just have a set in stone bedtime routine (that still involves lots of cuddles )
      Last edited by Anjalee; 20-07-2016, 15:49.

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      • #4
        I have no expierence with sleep schools or sleep training, but my motto is just do what works. A proper nights sleep is important for everyone, so I would do what works for you and for bub. I really don't think it would be too hard to get back into a routine after a couple of nights of illness,/ teething, interruptions. marie.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Anjalee View Post
          DD has had a couple of things (like sickness) that have come up lately and we definitely relaxed. We're not "training" as much as we're "maintaining" these days but we still try and stick to our original sleep plan as much as we can.But she's been miserable and needed more hugs, so we let her snuggle with us on the couch before bed, she slept with us one night etc. Now she's been we had a couple of tough(ish) nights where she woke a few times and tried to get up, but we went back to the sleep routine and she's back to normal again now

          Edited to add my post makes it sound like I don't cuddle her haha I totally do! Just have a set in stone bedtime routine (that still involves lots of cuddles )
          I know it's hard to write a post about sleep training without it sounding like we just leave our babies alone with no cuddles and comfort etc which is obviously far from the truth! More like I just don't usually let him fall asleep while cuddling but yes we cuddle a lot (I'm really into baby wearing so we also gets lots of cuddles whilst carrying him).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nh2489 View Post
            I know it's hard to write a post about sleep training without it sounding like we just leave our babies alone with no cuddles and comfort etc which is obviously far from the truth! More like I just don't usually let him fall asleep while cuddling but yes we cuddle a lot (I'm really into baby wearing so we also gets lots of cuddles whilst carrying him).
            Totally! I won't lie, once upon a time I didn't understand sleep training. But I was blessed with a good sleeper with my first then my second was terrible! I tried everything but she definitely needed sleep training. Best thing we ever did. We're all so much happier and healthier for it but I still somehow feel I need to defend myself even before anyone ever says anything... not that anyone ever has!

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            • #7
              Sleep training mummies advice

              Hi again . I have been doing much reading myself of this very topic of late. I am in the midst of sleep training my almost 9 month old after regressing again after yet another bloody cold.

              From what I can gather, first reinforce independent sleep. If this is failing and bubs is distressed (not just fussing or grizzling) then offer comfort, feeding to sleep etc, your hard work will not be undone unless it continues for more than 2 nights.

              Dd2 got a another cold night 4 of sleep training. After 6 nights I have discovered this morning she is cutting her first tooth. I have continued on with the training with some panadol before bed. She is still her typical self in the morning so it hasn't hurt her.

              Babies are always teething and sick (especially if they have siblings) so you'd never get any bloody sleep or get anywhere if you use it as a reason to not "maintain" your stance. It never seems to stop others from sleeping through. If its a serious illness, their feeding during the day is poor or they are overly distressed then yes give your child what they need. But always encourage independent sleep in the first instance.

              Hope that helps. Good luck xx
              Last edited by Little Miss Sunshine; 20-07-2016, 16:40.

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              • #8
                I'll pm a link that I googled last night on the topic

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                • #9
                  Sleep training mummies advice

                  I just wanted to add I would just love to feed/cuddle dd2 to sleep when she's sick, and not worry about it. But I find that she still continues to expect feeding to sleep/back to sleep and the night feelings continue and escalate long after she is better.
                  I understand you completely, I struggle to remain consistent.
                  I never had this issue with dd1 as she only had 2 colds before the age of 2, whereas dd2 seems to have a constant snotty nose that's never ending, thanks to dd1.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
                    I just wanted to add I would just love to feed/cuddle dd2 to sleep when she's sick, and not worry about it. But I find that she still continues to expect feeding to sleep/back to sleep and the night feelings continue and escalate long after she is better.
                    I understand you completely, I struggle to remain consistent.
                    I never had this issue with dd1 as she only had 2 colds before the age of 2, whereas dd2 seems to have a constant snotty nose that's never ending, thanks to dd1.
                    I seriously think we live in a parallel universe! Same with ds1, never had any issues with sleep when teething, hardly had any colds etc but this little one seems to get one thing after another. And yes his sleeping gets so disrupted by the tiniest let up. It's just soooo hard not cuddling him to sleep when he's I'll but now I've just had to listen to a good 10 mins of crying while trying to get him to sleep. Knowing he can sleep all night and go down with no fuss at all when he's well makes it so frustrating! Now he's over the worst of the cold I feel a bit happier being stronger and trying hard not to give in!

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                    • #11
                      Apologies in advance. I'm tired. This might be a ramble.

                      Mostly I give them whatever they need and set the routine aside. But I kinda always have a plan in the back of my mind to get us back on track when they get well. So for example I always go to them when they cry in the night but I almost never bring them out of the room. If i took my son out and cuddled on the couch in front of the tv I would have him screaming to watch tv for weeks after. I always give pain relief, water and a pat if that's all they need but I pick them up and rock and cuddle also if needed. My kids are both REALLY different. My older DS would try to take that and run with it after he got well. DD not so much. So for DS I kinda just only give him what he needs and no more iykwim. If I really felt that he needed me with him all night I would sleep on a mattress on his bedroom floor. I wouldn't bring him into my bed. I'm trying to tell him that I will always meet his needs (physical and emotional) but there are still rules and boundaries at bed time. Some other things I do to help get back on track. Tell him that now he is feeling well that I expect him to sleep all night. I find that telling my kids verbally what I expect from them always helps. I give pain relief before bed for a few nights after sickness symptoms have eased. I make sure the room temp is constant so they dont wake up from being hot/cold. I give them a leakproof water cup in their cot because I find they are super thirsty after illness.
                      I also mostly stick to their normal daytime sleep schedule and don't let them sleep all day.
                      With all this stuff I have found they they slip back into good nighttime sleeping without having to let them cry. Good luck. X

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                      • #12
                        Sleep training mummies advice

                        Gah [MENTION=132549]nh2489[/MENTION] so she just finished sleep training again and was sleeping through 10.5 hours (I can't get her close to 12 hours she's WIDE awake by 5am so I put her to bed 6/630) and then last night around 1am she fussed for an hour with no signs of improving so I just tried to cuddle her but got even more upset so I cracked and fed her..... Wasn't interested in her morning feed as a consequence. Now I wonder what tonight will bring.... Super frustrating!!

                        Eta: I don't care if it's a once off here or there or just one feed a night but it never is. One feed for a few nights, then two feeds, next thing you know she's back to waking 3 hourly.
                        Last edited by Little Miss Sunshine; 29-07-2016, 07:56.

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                        • #13
                          Oh so sorry to hear that. It's soooo frustrating when you know the tiniest thing will rock the boat whereas other kids sleep like logs regardless! I'm keeping everything crossed for you that she's ok tonight, not sure how my night will be as my little one seems to be continuously ill. Day 3 of high fever and every night for a week now he wakes at about midnight coughing so much he wakes up and I resort to feeding him to try and calm his cough a bit. Just when things are going well illness strikes again! Although I'm not worrying too much as we are moving back to the U.K. in 2 weeks so looking forward to the jet lag again!!! X

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