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    dd is 17 months on saturday. she communicates beautifully (makes noises, points, motions etc) but actual words are really non existent. she can say mum, dad and says ds’ name but i feel like even that’s occasional. she says “go!” if you count down “three, two, one and..” and she says “go!!”. she understands everything we say to her. just her verbal use of words seems really limited?? i’ve tried looking back at videos of ds around this age to compare but can’t seem to really find much. but i swear he was saying a bit more than dd.

    at what point does one take the next step and go chat to a gp? or am i worrying prematurely?

  • #2
    In my experience you're worrying prematurely. Two of my three have barely said anything until they were 2. If she understands you, babbles, says those few things you mentioned, she sounds spot on for that age.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GreenMama View Post
      In my experience you're worrying prematurely. Two of my three have barely said anything until they were 2. If she understands you, babbles, says those few things you mentioned, she sounds spot on for that age.
      thanks. i googled and got mixed results so doubt started to creep in. dh has also noticed it, which made me think, as it’s usually mums who pick up on this stuff more.

      i do wonder whether this lockdown has had any impact too. i also said to dh, sometimes i feel like she has the words but doesn’t use them as she knows we anticipate her needs so well. she points and sort of goes hmmm hmmm at the item and generally knows we know she wants it.

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      • #4
        I just went back in my phone to look at videos of DS around the same age and he had a few clear words he could say, occasionally would try sing songs but 90% of his communicating was babbles, non verbal gestures & crying. Happy to send some through PM if that’s even possible so you can see?

        He is nearly 2.5 now and he’s the biggest chatterbox so i would say not to worry but go with your gut & if discussing with a GP would put you at ease then maybe it’s worth it the trip.

        https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/spee...nt-in-children

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        • #5
          I think that could totally have an impact. It really sounds to me like she's fine though.

          I think it makes a big difference what your first is like. DD1 was a slow talker, I was getting a bit concerned but my gut told me she was fine. A couple of weeks before she turned two she just started talking normally. But before then barely anything (understood and communicated in her own way though).

          DD2 started speaking at 12 months and had full sentences at 18 months. It was such a shock (she is extremely bright at 6 now).

          I know if their speech had been swapped around, I would've been so concerned about the slow talking. But DD1 set me up for low expectations 😂😂😂

          DS has been the same as DD1, slow. He's 2yr 2mth now and is doing great, but a few months ago had a handful of words only.

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          • #6
            She sounds pretty much on par with ds3.

            Ds1 said his first word at 4.5 months. I know that's ridiculously young, but it's on video, sil and I taking to him "Mum mum mum dad dad dad bub bub bubba" and he clearly repeats "mum" back. And he continued to do so from them on, he always met the CHN milestones easily, there was zero concern! "More darsta" (More pasta) came at about 15m!

            Ds2 on the other hand, barely said 5 clear words at 2, didn't join 2 words together, he communicated with grunts, gestures, squeals etc instead. I pushed at his 2yr checkup for a speech referral because I was worried. At the end of the hour session, she asked if he was completely mute as he didn't so much as grunt 🤦‍♀️ a few weeks later, he said "nan car" pointing to mum's car... and from there he exploded. Within weeks he was naming pokemon, animals etc... and now... he doesn't stop talking 😅 kinder picked up 1 word and got us sent to speech recently but he's fine. He does some (normal) sound reversals, like Nofitication》 notification. But it's fine.

            Ds3 I believe is going to be like ds2. Lots of hand gestures, nods, head shaking, grunts, "uh uh uh", smiles, clapping etc to communicate. The only words we get regularly are: mum, dad, nan and bub. He doesn't usually repeat them back, and it's usually just randomly babbled. He used to say "ta" and has said "up" once but hasn't said them in ages, so I think they eye just a fluke... I'm not worried about him --- yet Given my experience with ds2

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            • #7
              I can't believe your DD is 17 months - where has the time gone?!

              I would say it's too early for concern, however if she is not putting two words together by the time she is 2 I would suggest having her seen to by a speech therapist, just to get an opinion of where she is at and if she needs further sessions.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mod-Degrassi View Post
                I can't believe your DD is 17 months - where has the time gone?!

                I would say it's too early for concern, however if she is not putting two words together by the time she is 2 I would suggest having her seen to by a speech therapist, just to get an opinion of where she is at and if she needs further sessions.
                i know!!! i was literally thinking the same thing this morning. i feel like she was being born a few months ago. it really has gone so fast. she’ll be 2 in april!! stop growing so fast my baby girl!! [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]

                thanks for the feedback, will keep that in mind [emoji1]

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                • #9
                  how much should a 17 month old be talking?

                  DD had VERY limited speech until around 2 1/2. She had less than 10 words at her 2 year check.
                  I’m pretty sure she was just waiting til she could talk in full sentences, and hasn’t stopped since!!!
                  Last edited by hakuna matata; 25-09-2020, 12:21.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hakuna matata View Post
                    DD has VERY limited speech until around 2 1/2. She had less than 10 words at her 2 year check.
                    I’m pretty sure she was just waiting til she could talk in full sentences, and hasn’t stopped since!!!
                    haha i remember you saying that!

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                    • #11
                      If you have niggling concerns, my advice would be to keep a record of when she hits social/communication milestones.

                      As my eldest, DD, was an advanced talker - highly articulate, read at 4yo, etc - it was always hard to know if DS was genuinely behind or behind compared to his sister. He always was within the expected range for number of words, but down the low end. He was on time/a touch ahead for putting together 2, then 3 or more, words and on time for pointing, following someone else pointing with his eyes. He had sound articulation issues with speech therapy at 3yo and they had no concerns with his language development or social communication.

                      However, here we are at 7yo exploring an ASD diagnosis. He is very borderline and his intelligence has helped him compensate for it up to now. The hardest thing with going through the assessment process now is I just can't remember what age he was when he did what. It's been the questions about types of play, e.g. early pretend play like pretending a random object is something else (a block is a phone, a box is a cake). I know he was late to start proper pretend play, but again, was he 4? 5? I don't know!

                      Seeing things with 20/20 hindsight vision, I do think the fact that he was behind compared to his sister was an early flag. He's clearly as smart, probably smarter, than her. His language should not have been so, so far behind where she was at the same age.

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                      • #12
                        how much should a 17 month old be talking?

                        My kids health record books say
                        15 words by 21 months
                        2 word sentences by 24 months
                        Last edited by Kazza78; 25-09-2020, 13:07.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by turquoisecoast View Post
                          dd is 17 months on saturday. she communicates beautifully (makes noises, points, motions etc) but actual words are really non existent. she can say mum, dad and says ds’ name but i feel like even that’s occasional. she says “go!” if you count down “three, two, one and..” and she says “go!!”. she understands everything we say to her. just her verbal use of words seems really limited?? i’ve tried looking back at videos of ds around this age to compare but can’t seem to really find much. but i swear he was saying a bit more than dd.

                          at what point does one take the next step and go chat to a gp? or am i worrying prematurely?
                          my kids have always been late to talk. ie a few words by 2. but once they start they just kept going. DS3 (bub#4) is 19.5mths and can say hot, pop, woof, bye, dad and mum. these have all only really come about in the last 3weeks. although we.know he understands lots.
                          give it til 2 and then follow up with nurse or gp.
                          school teacher friends reassured me that as long as his receptive language development was progressing then he'll get there with his expressive

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                          • #14
                            Mine had 20 words and sounds at 2 (sounds being brm brm for car, or moo for cow).

                            Between 2 and 3 she exploded with language and now at 3 talks in full sentences, sings songs and tells stories.

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                            • #15
                              Speech is so variable between one child to the next - pay no mind to what the internet suggests - I read something like 300-1000 words by age two, including 2-3 word sentences. I don't know about you but I can't even list 1000 words at age 36 lol

                              Then there are other variables like whether or not they have older siblings, their temperament (I have a very physical, explorer-type 2.5 year old who could walk and run by 10 months but talking, not so much. Some kids progress at a gradual pace, others have word explosions.

                              If by age 2 you think they need some help, a speech pathologist can give you tips on how to encourage speech (not responding to needs immediately, asking questions and offering two alternatives such as 'do you want the milk or the juice', 'carrot or apple' etc.)

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