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  • hints re toddlers sensitive tummy not gastro & hints re creche care for him.

    we are ;looking for suggestions fr 2 questions one question is what might help sensitive tummy of toddler who is vomiting every couple of days currently reasons unknown nothing showed in extensive testing besides a sensitive tummy currently
    and also we'd like if you have any suggestions for helping the creche to keep him in childcare and not send him home for a currently sensitive tummy and he might vomit one time every 2 or so days but he is not sick he is not contagious nothing in extensive testing has shown up .This is the crux of the questions i have
    Last edited by angela22; 04-02-2020, 09:12.

  • #2
    Have you provided the childcare with a letter from your doctor explaining this?

    I’m guessing the policy around vomiting is very strict to keep everyone well. Even if he isn’t ‘sick’ his care needs would increase if he needs specific feeding, sitting after meals. Maybe this isn’t something they can facilitate.

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    • #3
      I don’t really have any advice on how to get the childcare to keep him there.
      It’s possible that they have to maintain this policy because even though the child has a sensitive stomach today, it doesn’t mean that when he vomits next week that it isn’t a bug of some kind.
      It’s very frustrating to have to keep leaving work and picking up a child from daycare just to get home and find they’re fine.
      But I guess they have to consider the welfare of every other child and staff member.

      Is finding in home care an option for you?

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      • #4
        Sorry, but there won't be much you can do to force them to keep your child there.

        They have a duty of care to every child in their care. They must follow NATIONAL guidelines for the minimum period of exclusion, in an attempt to control the spread of infectious diseases (everything from vomiting, to head lice, to hiv, cold sores, chickenpox, mumps etc etc)

        They can not have a child who is vomiting, and not for at least 24 hours after the last vomit, just *incase* it is contagious.

        You said testing shows it's not, that's fine. At the time of testing it was not... But what if there's an outbreak of gastro, and your child IS contagious? They can't test your child to see if they are or aren't contagious each time, so they just cant risk it, sorry...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shadowangel0205 View Post
          Sorry, but there won't be much you can do to force them to keep your child there.

          They have a duty of care to every child in their care. They must follow NATIONAL guidelines for the minimum period of exclusion, in an attempt to control the spread of infectious diseases (everything from vomiting, to head lice, to hiv, cold sores, chickenpox, mumps etc etc)

          They can not have a child who is vomiting, and not for at least 24 hours after the last vomit, just *incase* it is contagious.

          You said testing shows it's not, that's fine. At the time of testing it was not... But what if there's an outbreak of gastro, and your child IS contagious? They can't test your child to see if they are or aren't contagious each time, so they just cant risk it, sorry...
          Exactly this. Also, it is unfair on childcare to be expected to deal with this. It isn't fair on daycare to be cleaning up vomit and it isn't fair on the other children having their educator having to clean up vomit instead of engaging with them. I would be annoyed as an educator but I was also be annoyed as a fellow parent. I wouldn't want my child to be exposed to vomiting. Without a letter from a doctor, childcare really can't be sure that the child isn't contageous. They are following national regulations.

          Only thing you can do is get a diagnosis from a doctor or some sort of management plan.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mum-I-Am View Post
            Have you provided the childcare with a letter from your doctor explaining this?

            I’m guessing the policy around vomiting is very strict to keep everyone well. Even if he isn’t ‘sick’ his care needs would increase if he needs specific feeding, sitting after meals. Maybe this isn’t something they can facilitate.
            They could provide inclusion support however they would need to facilitate with doctors and inclusion support.

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            • #7
              If he is vomitting regularly, you may need to get your GP to refer you to a a specialist, like a Paediatric Gastroenterologist so that you can come up with a plan. Daycare have no choice but to send him home when he vomits, it will be a part of their policy. Good luck! Can't be fun
              DS1 – 10, DD1 – 9, DS2 – 7, DS3 - 4

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              • #8
                Thank you for all your kind and helpful responses. i have read and reread them all thank you. .
                its been almost 3 weeks now that randomly maybe every second or so day my son vomits.
                Its possibly hyper sensitivity to allergens that we tested for and discovered last year so its important to stick to the allergy test results. the creche never stuck to the recommended diet they just did for their own convenience dairy wheat gluten free but now its very important for 4-6 weeks to follow the actual recommendations from the nutritionist and from the allergic test results.

                as some of you mentioned . . We are now tryng to get pediatrician and nutritionist who also did the allergy test to write recommendations as a medical report so it will be taken more seriously and hopefully that will help

                Even if the report only says
                1 -give small amounts of fluid and food throughout the day 20 ml at a time
                2 -follow allergy test diet strictly
                3 he is not contagious and is fit for care.

                this has gone on for a few weeks and might still go on fr a few weeks. He cannot stay home ongoingly for a sensitive diet with a creche that all along never followed the allergy recommendations.
                there are babies with reflux more than other babies and its part of life and child care.

                . if there are ways we can help staff to care for him and overcome any issues while this is being resolved that is our aim.
                This child has always been much much much easier than other children to care for in creche, and has been there since very very young so if he is a bit harder to care for for a few weeks due to digestive allergic hypersensitivity then perhaps they can work with us to care for him.
                Last edited by angela22; 04-02-2020, 12:15.

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                • #9
                  How old is the child?

                  I think you are being unrealistic about what childcare can provide. I think you may need to find other options while you go through this trial phase.

                  Also I would be more concerned with what is the matter with my child, rather than the childcare response. I’m not sure what a sensitive tummy is, but sounds like a ‘we don’t know from the doctors’. I would be pushing for more testing.

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                  • #10
                    How old is he?
                    DS1 – 10, DD1 – 9, DS2 – 7, DS3 - 4

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                    • #11
                      So originally you said extensive testing was fine and they said just a sensitive stomach. Now you are saying you have allergy test results that the childcare aren't following? Do you actually have an official allergy plan filled out from the doctor when you received the diagnosis?
                      https://www.allergy.org.au/hp/anaphy...or-anaphylaxis

                      There is a huge difference in reflux and actual vomiting.

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                      • #12
                        today childcare only gave non allegenic foods and he did not vomit. he is around 17 months. maternal health nurses and doctors have said that creches have to follow allergy diets.

                        we are both concerned re creche support working with us and re curing this. tests have been done but it all seems to point to inflamed gut and allergy diet not anything else.

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                        • #13
                          my son has food intolerances and will vomit if given food he is intolerant to.
                          if the childcare is giving him food he is intolerant too which makes him vomit then sending him home I'd report them to the care and regulatory unit

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by angela22 View Post
                            today childcare only gave non allegenic foods and he did not vomit. he is around 17 months. maternal health nurses and doctors have said that creches have to follow allergy diets.

                            we are both concerned re creche support working with us and re curing this. tests have been done but it all seems to point to inflamed gut and allergy diet not anything else.
                            And have you given the childcare paperwork from a doctor saying his allergy diet?

                            Your last post you were unhappy with childcare not working on developmental delays. Is he at a new centre or is this the same centre as last time?

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                            • #15
                              I wouldnt hold high hopes for childcare centres. I had a child with eczema and every single time she got an eczema rash I had to come collect her and take her to a GP and get a medical certificate to say she 'wasnt contagious", even though it was clearly an eczema rash! Every freaking time. Their response was "we're not doctors". No sh*t sherlock, not many high IQs there, thats for sure. I was even told once that she couldnt walk in drinking a juice box because, "that juice box might contain EGG". I couldnt make this stuff up!

                              Childcare centres do have to follow allergy diets, absolutely, some kids allergies are life threatening.

                              I hope your GP can help, but I wouldnt be holding out a lot of hope of keeping him in a childcare centre.
                              "This too, shall pass."

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