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    Has anyone got tips for dealing with insomnia?

    I'm finding it hard to fall asleep even when tired, and to go back to sleep when dd2 wakes me for a bf during the night.

    I find my mind racing and can't stop thinking about a number of stressful things going on. I feel like I could go to sleep if I could just stop thinking, but I don't know how to do that.

    Anyone figured out how not to lay awake stressing at night?

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    My tip is going to go against all common sense advice about winding down and not looking at screens before bedtime, but this is the only thing I've found works for me:

    I play an exceptionally boring video (on mute) with subtitles. It annoys my eyes to read the subtitles side-wards, so I eventually close my eyes. Sometimes just being able to wholly focus on something else other than my own thoughts, alongside closing my eyes, is enough to trick my brain into falling asleep.

    Would you consider seeing an endocrinologist? I believe some deal with chronic insomnia.
    I am not an early bird or a night owl.
    I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MissTwiggley View Post
      My tip is going to go against all common sense advice about winding down and not looking at screens before bedtime, but this is the only thing I've found works for me:

      I play an exceptionally boring video (on mute) with subtitles. It annoys my eyes to read the subtitles side-wards, so I eventually close my eyes. Sometimes just being able to wholly focus on something else other than my own thoughts, alongside closing my eyes, is enough to trick my brain into falling asleep.

      Would you consider seeing an endocrinologist? I believe some deal with chronic insomnia.
      Thanks. I might try boring myself to sleep with a video, nothing to lose.

      Is it thyroid-related sleep issues that endocrinologists deal with, or something else?

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      • #4
        I fight with sleep a lot I've never found a magic cure but some things help a little or a lot depending on the day.
        • Magnesium helps.
        • High vitamins D levels are supposed to help, mine is already high.
        • Get away from screens, I fell into that trap, if you need entertainment put on radio national for half an hour, radio national at the witching hour is enough to send anyone to sleep!
        • I find it easier to sleep when I'm with someone else in bed - I hate being alone.
        • A cuddle at night helps especially if my mind is racing something about it helps my mind to come down a a lot. Even if I don't get to sleep my brain can rest that way.
        • Most obvious for last, sex in any of its forms! But not even that always works.

        I go through periods too where I sleep well for a whole week but then not again for 2 weeks which I hate.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kalina View Post
          Thanks. I might try boring myself to sleep with a video, nothing to lose.

          Is it thyroid-related sleep issues that endocrinologists deal with, or something else?
          I hope it works for you.

          I'm not quite sure on the specifics, but I do know that chronic insomnia formed a part of my referral to the endo as the GP mentioned that it's often linked with hormonal disorders. Although if you go down that route they'll probably send you to a respiratory specialist first to rule out sleep apnea and other sleep disorders... Yours seems like you can't fall asleep easily when/once awake and not so much that you can't stay asleep, unless I've misinterpreted what you've written.
          I am not an early bird or a night owl.
          I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MissTwiggley View Post
            I hope it works for you.

            I'm not quite sure on the specifics, but I do know that chronic insomnia formed a part of my referral to the endo as the GP mentioned that it's often linked with hormonal disorders. Although if you go down that route they'll probably send you to a respiratory specialist first to rule out sleep apnea and other sleep disorders... Yours seems like you can't fall asleep easily when/once awake and not so much that you can't stay asleep, unless I've misinterpreted what you've written.
            Yes, I can't fall asleep. Once I'm asleep, I sleep until someone or something wakes me up. It's only really been the last few weeks. I generally sleep well unless I'm stressed about something or the kids wake me, so I assumed it was stress-related because I've got some of that going on.

            It's such a weird feeling, I'm wired and wide awake now, and probably will be for the next couple of hours, but tomorrow at work I'll feel wretched with exhaustion.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mason98 View Post
              I fight with sleep a lot I've never found a magic cure but some things help a little or a lot depending on the day.
              • Magnesium helps.
              • High vitamins D levels are supposed to help, mine is already high.
              • Get away from screens, I fell into that trap, if you need entertainment put on radio national for half an hour, radio national at the witching hour is enough to send anyone to sleep!
              • I find it easier to sleep when I'm with someone else in bed - I hate being alone.
              • A cuddle at night helps especially if my mind is racing something about it helps my mind to come down a a lot. Even if I don't get to sleep my brain can rest that way.
              • Most obvious for last, sex in any of its forms! But not even that always works.

              I go through periods too where I sleep well for a whole week but then not again for 2 weeks which I hate.
              Thanks - haven't heard of magnesium in this context, I'll look into that. Should probably check vitamin D level too, I'm outdoors a fair bit but it's cold so not much skin exposure.

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              • #8
                I close my eyes and listen to podcasts with single person speakers who have calming, soft voices and no sound effects. Ideally the subject is interesting enough to distract my brain from my own thoughts, but isn't so interesting that I stay awake to hear what happens (I've been caught once or twice). My favourite for this is Noble Blood - a bit of a history lesson that's easy enough to sleep to.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kalina View Post
                  Yes, I can't fall asleep. Once I'm asleep, I sleep until someone or something wakes me up. It's only really been the last few weeks. I generally sleep well unless I'm stressed about something or the kids wake me, so I assumed it was stress-related because I've got some of that going on.

                  It's such a weird feeling, I'm wired and wide awake now, and probably will be for the next couple of hours, but tomorrow at work I'll feel wretched with exhaustion.
                  It's intensely frustrating being wired and wide awake at the wrong hours. I'm not sure if you can relate to this, but l usually have uncontrollable sleepiness up until early afternoon after which I'll perk up with little effort, and then stay bright eyed and bushy tailed till just after midnight.

                  I've long thought that my circadian rhythm is simply out of balance. It could be the same for you? If the endo offers any insight I'll be sure to pass it on, but it might be worth checking your thyroid and hormones regardless.

                  Fingers crossed you don't have too much trouble sleeping tonight. xx
                  I am not an early bird or a night owl.
                  I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by a million dreams View Post
                    I close my eyes and listen to podcasts with single person speakers who have calming, soft voices and no sound effects. Ideally the subject is interesting enough to distract my brain from my own thoughts, but isn't so interesting that I stay awake to hear what happens (I've been caught once or twice). My favourite for this is Noble Blood - a bit of a history lesson that's easy enough to sleep to.
                    I'll try this, thanks. I'm a sucker for a good podcast but it never occurred to me to listen to one in bed.
                    I might stick one of these on shortly and see how I go.

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                    • #11
                      Sleep hypnosis on YouTube. The person I've had the most success with is Michael Sealy. Binaural Beats can sometimes help me depending on how persistent my mind is before bed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tainted View Post
                        Sleep hypnosis on YouTube. The person I've had the most success with is Michael Sealy. Binaural Beats can sometimes help me depending on how persistent my mind is before bed.
                        Ooh thanks, never heard of any of that so I'll give it a go.

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                        • #13
                          Insomnia

                          Another one here for putting on the TV or a podcast. I don’t watch the TV, I lie down and try to focus on the TV (or podcast) to drown out my own thoughts.

                          Not helpful if you need to get up to BF but when I’ve had a crap nights sleep I take a sleeping tablet the following night. Can’t take the sleeping tablet if you wake up in the night though as it won’t wear off in time. I need to take it no later than 9pm.

                          I really sympathise with you - insomnia sucks big time. Dealing with the worlds problems the next day when you haven’t had enough sleep is all the more challenging. [emoji17]

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                          • #14
                            How did you go last night? xx

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by babyno1onboard View Post
                              How did you go last night? xx
                              Much better, thanks. Mostly because dd2 slept through so I got a solid chunk of sleep, but I tried some new stuff going to sleep as well.

                              I went to bed earlier than usual......but made the mistake of putting on season 2 of Breeders at first, which pulled me in too much. I forced myself to change over to a podcast, and lay on my side - it still took a little while to fall asleep, but not nearly as long as previously.

                              I feel much more human today 💪

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