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  • Amandamoo
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    Just an update for those interested she bought first class tickets and wasn’t bumped off any flights. How exciting for her. Xx

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  • Amandamoo
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    Last year I applied many times to go OS and was granted approval however I would chicken out last minute because of the situation.
    I have a friend who applied and was granted approval recently and she’s seen Dr N and is currently pregnant, due to fly home tonight.

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  • gypsychild
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    Originally posted by Birdface View Post
    Has anyone been approved to leave australia for medical treatment - in this case, the IVF treatment embryo transfer?

    I just read the rules and surrogacy etc is ok but medical treatment has to be evidenced by the treatment is otherwise not available in Australia. Other option is a compassionate ground under other general I suppose.

    If we do give details about why we don’t use IVF in australia, we are basically letting the gov know we are using donors, indirectly. I wonder if they would grant us ok to leave Aus for that??
    Yes there are many woman still getting permission to leave on compassionate grounds for IVF treatment overseas, I believe they usually have a letter from an Australian Dr saying they require donor eggs and it is too hard to find in Australia. If you are applying for Super though then you don't tell them you need donor eggs.

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  • Hetty
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    Importing embryo into Australia

    Not IVF but I saw a story on dateline where a guy needed to go to Russia for stem cell treatment for MS. It also followed the story of a man who was in Russia receiving treatment and then struggling to get home. The guy did get home but it cost him about $40k for the flights, he had to get a private charter from WA to one of the eastern states and the other flights were expensive too. The other guy hasn’t managed to get over there. Worth watching for sure.

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  • Mia75
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    Originally posted by Birdface View Post
    Has anyone been approved to leave australia for medical treatment - in this case, the IVF treatment embryo transfer?

    I just read the rules and surrogacy etc is ok but medical treatment has to be evidenced by the treatment is otherwise not available in Australia. Other option is a compassionate ground under other general I suppose.

    If we do give details about why we don’t use IVF in australia, we are basically letting the gov know we are using donors, indirectly. I wonder if they would grant us ok to leave Aus for that??
    I was watching the morning show this morning and an ivf clinic in USA said that there were Australians travelling to the US for IVF treatment during the pandemic. He said they were getting travel exemptions and quarantining on the way home. I don’t have much other information other than that. At least it gives hope that there is travel exemptions for ivf treatment overseas. Although I am reluctant to travel at the moment.

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  • Birdface
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    Has anyone been approved to leave australia for medical treatment - in this case, the IVF treatment embryo transfer?

    I just read the rules and surrogacy etc is ok but medical treatment has to be evidenced by the treatment is otherwise not available in Australia. Other option is a compassionate ground under other general I suppose.

    If we do give details about why we don’t use IVF in australia, we are basically letting the gov know we are using donors, indirectly. I wonder if they would grant us ok to leave Aus for that??

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  • Unicorn78
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    Originally posted by 1greenfrog View Post
    I did not realise how expensive it was to ship them either.

    It seems to be easier to get out, than in. Thats my worry at the moment. That I get overseas no problems, but get stuck there for months.
    Yeah, it does seem that way but I'm getting so desperate I thinking of taking my chances!

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  • 1greenfrog
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    I did not realise how expensive it was to ship them either.

    It seems to be easier to get out, than in. Thats my worry at the moment. That I get overseas no problems, but get stuck there for months.

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  • Unicorn78
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    Originally posted by 1greenfrog View Post
    Someone posted this in a Facebook IVF/Donor/Surrogacy page, hope it's ok to share.
    I haven't watched it fully yet, so not sure how good it is, or if it helps.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be
    Thank you for posting this [MENTION=157573]1greenfrog[/MENTION]. I found it helpful. It confirmed what I thought about importing donor embryos but I might look at using them to help with an exemption application to go back to Cyprus for a transfer [emoji3]

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  • Mia75
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    Originally posted by 1greenfrog View Post
    Sorry, I keep replying to myself... it is an intersting watch in general, with quite a bit of info about sperm & embryo shipping in general especially with Covid restrictions. If you have 48 minutes check it out.
    its bloody expensive!
    Thanks I will watch it now

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  • 1greenfrog
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    Sorry, I keep replying to myself... it is an intersting watch in general, with quite a bit of info about sperm & embryo shipping in general especially with Covid restrictions. If you have 48 minutes check it out.
    its bloody expensive!

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  • 1greenfrog
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    OK, I have watched about 15 minutes of it, and I need to go into a meeting at 10. But so far it looks very helpful! The guy doing it is from Growing Families.

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  • 1greenfrog
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    Someone posted this in a Facebook IVF/Donor/Surrogacy page, hope it's ok to share.
    I haven't watched it fully yet, so not sure how good it is, or if it helps.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be

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  • Mia75
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    Hey [MENTION=148476]Hopeful137[/MENTION]

    Thanks for your comments. I too am at a dead end. I reached out to a clinic in WA and they said they have submitted applications on behalf of patients before and it was rejected based on counselling and anonymity and that they believed it was no altruistic payments. It seems like the clinic really didn’t want to help me as it was a lot of work. Which I completely understand.

    I also reached out to VARTA the governing body in Victoria and they were very helpful and basically had the following to say after stepping out the requirements

    “ Usually when the donor is anonymous, the donor requirements above cannot be fulfilled and therefor the applications are unsuccessful. Further, where the donor is anonymous the clinic cannot determine family limits (in Vic this is 10 family limit worldwide – overseas this varies). Victorian clinics are unable to support applications where the donor is anonymous.

    Where an application has been successful in the past and the embryos created from donor gametes originated from a country like Sth Africa or Greece (where donation is anonymous by law), the applicants have usually gone through the Courts overseas, received a court order which have allowed donor release information and the donor was agreeable to provide donor information to the Victorian Central Register and undergo counselling with a Vic counsellor, consent etc.”

    Anyhow I have decided to wait and see what happens and just enjoy my beautiful little girl.

    Originally posted by Hopeful137 View Post
    Dead end just incase anyone was wondering the same.

    However I did read on the RTC (WA) website that you can apply for import of donor embryos under compassionate grounds when they don’t meet the requirements for donor identifying information. Just have to meet all the other requirements. Unfortunately I have a feeling that the counselling of the donor requirement may not have been met but maybe that would also be considered under compassionate grounds. Surely Covid is a pretty good reason for compassionate grounds!

    I’m emailing the RTC tomorrow and will keep you all posted!

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  • Hopeful137
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    Also incase anyone was wondering another dead end. Apparently the authority in Greece which has to agree to embryos being exported is not currently running due to covid!

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