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    Hi, I was wondering how Autism is detected and are there any test they can do during the pregnancy?

  • #2
    Hi there,

    As of yet 'they' aren't sure how or when Autism develops - if it is present since birth (or before) or if there is something can be detected by tests.

    So no, there is no physical test that you can have taken during pregnancy.

    Usually Autism is diagnosed by a series of behavioural tests from early childhood onwards. Many aren't diagnosed until Adulthood, or never. Even then nothing is certain as Autism isn't black and white, but instead a syndrome on a massive scale, if you know what I mean - many 'normal' people can exhibit Autistic behaviours so making a clear diagnosis can be difficult.

    But no, definitely no test available in pregnancy, or even in infancy.

    Are you concerned about something in particular?

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    • #3
      Autism is defined as a syndrome charicterised by an inability to comprehend or communicate, failure to relate appropriatly and inappropriate or obsessive behaviour. Its causes are mostly unknown but scientistshave discovered 10-15% of cases have a genetic factor. In jan researchers at childrens hospital at boston and the us autism consortium announced a breakthrough!!!!! As you can imagine it is very hard to test autistic children/adults. But they have tested 1500 people and 1% were missing 25 genes from a section of chromosone 16.

      It is hard to diagnose a child with autism, but as i work in the field there are definatly signs in early childhood. I am observing a 7mth old atm!
      Drs in Aust will not (which is horrific) diagnose autism until the age of 4, and statistics show that generally there is not as much progression after ongoing treatments in a 4yr old as there is in a 2 or 3 yr old.
      If your family has autism through it, there is DNA screaning that they do in the USA and some IVF clinics in Australia.

      Unfortunatly Australia is a 3rd world country when it comes to the diagnosis and treatment of children and adults whom are on the spectrum. The government will not allow the stripping of heavy metals via I.V detox. A build up of heavy metals is found in 70% of all Autistic children in the US. It is the first step parents are offered to help with the fight to unlock the child/adult from their autism.

      Ok i am raving on now......but there is soooooo much happening in the world of autism. If you need any help, please PM me. xoxox

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      • #4
        Drs in Aust will not (which is horrific) diagnose autism until the age of 4,
        I don't know where you are getting your information, but I know many people who have received an autism diagnosis for their child well before the age of four (in australia) and my own son was diagnosed by a multidisciplinary panel at the age of 3 and a half.

        The government will not allow the stripping of heavy metals via I.V detox. A build up of heavy metals is found in 70% of all Autistic children in the US.
        The government will not allow chelation therapy in Australia because there are not good studies that show its effectiveness, and it can be fatal if administered incorrectly.

        It is the first step parents are offered to help with the fight to unlock the child/adult from their autism.
        People can not be 'unlocked' from autism. They are not being held captive inside their own brains, they are just a little different in the way that they perceive the world and in the way they interact with it. Being different doesn't mean that someone needs to be cured....they just need a little help with some things and a lot of acceptance from the rest of us.

        Loi2 - Genetic testing for autism is still a way off. Diagnosis is generally made after 2 years, but a few cases are being diagnosed earlier. If you are concerned about autism in your family, it would be best to talk to a genetic counsellor.

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        • #5
          In response to the original post - no there is no test to detect autism in pregnancy.

          Autistic disorder is a developmental behavioural syndrome that is currently considered to have multiple causes.

          Autism is usually identified as being "on a spectrum". This means that how it presents in different children is varied and some other disorders will also be "related" to autism. (such as pervasive developmental disorder).

          True autism can only be detected through matching with criteria in The diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders.

          There has been no research to date (unless someone can show me any links) to prove that autism is conclusively caused by something. There has been heaps into possible causes of autism, but nothing is conclusive - including heavy metals, or the MMR vaccination, and bonding issues with parents.....(the list goes on and it isn't relevant to go into it here).

          I have worked with many children under the age of 4 who have had a definitive diagnosis of autism.

          A child can only be diagnosed with autism by a paediatrician. I am a therapist and have been asked for my opinion many times, but would never diagnose a child - just provide observations and information to the child's doctor.

          There are also many treatment options and the different ones work differently with different people.

          Until a child arrives and we can meet them, we have so many worries for them - these do not leave when they arrive.

          Regardless of whether a child has a diagnosis - we stil need to give that child opportunities to learn and grow and feel loved and secure. I know I've gone on a bit, but hope that's answered some of your questions.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Can I? View Post
            I don't know where you are getting your information, but I know many people who have received an autism diagnosis for their child well before the age of four (in australia) and my own son was diagnosed by a multidisciplinary panel at the age of 3 and a half.

            The government will not allow chelation therapy in Australia because there are not good studies that show its effectiveness, and it can be fatal if administered incorrectly.
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            As some of you may know, my son was diagnosed last week by his paediatrician. He was 2 on January 6th. Having said that, he has seen this paed since birth and he was unwilling to commit to a diagnosis up until now and has still covered his behind by saying, :At this stage Alexander fulfills the criteria for autism spectrum disorder. It is still nearly impossible to get a psychologist willing to see a child under 3 and this makes it difficult if not impossible to get child on specific autism early intervention before 3. The reason nobody wants to diagnose befor 3 is apparently in about 50% of case they are wrong and parents get upset down the track.

            As for the IV to remove the toxic heavy metals I was told that this is extremely invasive and painful and you just wouldn't do it to a child. Alex is having osteopathic treatment and is on the gluten fee diet, (he is allergic to dairy and soy anyway,) and has had the foot patches which are supposed to "remove heavy toxins." We did have the hair test which was sent over to the US which confirmed high heavy metal toxicity.

            Why exactly are you worried about autism while you are pregnant? (If you are pregnant?)

            Sara

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            • #7
              Thanks EVERYONE for your posts
              Just that a relative of mine has a son who seems to be showing some signs that seem they may be related to Autism. I guess there are alot of parents out there who wouldn't think of taking their child to a specialist, so therefore would not be diagnosed. I assume that some children would be diagnosed or concerns raised to parents at the time they start school.
              I guess there are so many disabilites that can be tested through blood test etc, I would have thought that they would have been able to do tests prenatal or post.

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              • #8
                There's some genetic markers for autism but those can remain dormant, so even if your DNA says that you have a good chance of developing autism it may never be triggered, especially when it comes to girls who seem to have less chance of being autistic even though they have the same genetic markers. When it comes to heavy metals, they are everywhere in the environment and it's a good idea to avoid as many as possible while pregnant and while breast feeding. For example anything containing baking powder, toothpaste (substitute for plain old warm water) aerosols, talcum powder, some medications, pesticides etc. Google for a list. And trade ocean fish for freshwater fish as some fish in the ocean have some pretty high levels of mercury.
                I wont get into the Vax debate on here, there's already a thread for that, but ask your doctor for options when vaccinating. You can delay them or split them up if you're worried.
                And early intervention is the key. Nobody would diagnose my son, but I got in touch with our local Autism Specific Early Learning Care Centre. They can take kids on without a diagnosis if they can see the markers (delayed speech, odd behaviours etc) and then early intervention can begin before you even have a diagnosis.

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