Persistent Occiput Posterior Position

**Ana Gram** · 20-03-2007 21:10

I had never heard of this before I gave birth. It was pretty much the cause of my horrid birth.

Has anyone else been through a "Persistent Occiput Posterior Position" birth?

**RedPanda** · 20-03-2007 21:14

Hmm, not sure what it is. I know what posterior is - DS was posterior... horrid horrid back pain, but not sure on the occiput term!

**Seekrit** · 20-03-2007 21:16

I had a ROP... he turned about half an hour before birth - thank the angels. The back pain was horrid, and the midwife was telling me it didn't hurt as much as I was making out as my contractions were only "mild" but I'll tell you, they didn't get hurtier, just lasted longer as the time went on, it was ALL IN MY BACK!! GRRRRR>

I've also been through a POP birth.. but the other way

I was the one inflicting horrid pain on my mother, sadly.

**Becteria** · 20-03-2007 21:19

i had a posterior birth too - it sucked.

All that pain to end in a c sec!

**Ana Gram** · 20-03-2007 21:28

Is there any difference between posterior and persistent posterior?

**Seekrit** · 20-03-2007 21:31

persistant is spine to spine.. no budging.
right occiput posterior (which Cobes was) is when they're mainly to the right and left occiput is to the left, obviously...

**Buddha Bubbas** · 20-03-2007 21:42

Yes i had this with DD

Horrid is an understatment

Isnt it lovely when their head comes out and they turn them

**stellarella** · 20-03-2007 21:44

DS was Left Occiput Posterior. He was spine to spine for some of my labour because he turned 270 degrees the long way round instead of the 90 degrees he needed to do

...typical.

He was still ROP as he descended, hence the 2 1/4 hour second stage and the 36-48 hr labour before it.

I have an android pelvis, he needed to be posterior to fit through. I hope it doesnt happen with bub #2

Does Persistent Posterior mean they actually crown still in the posterior position. Thats how I presented for my poor dear mother. She had a massive episiotomy and no drugs. I love her!!

**Ana Gram** · 20-03-2007 21:53

Originally Posted by Buddha Bubbas

Yes i had this with DD

Horrid is an understatment

Isnt it lovely when their head comes out and they turn them

Thankfully I couldn't feel anything by this point!!

**Buddha Bubbas** · 20-03-2007 21:56

Originally Posted by stellarella

Does Persistent Posterior mean they actually crown still in the posterior position. Thats how I presented for my poor dear mother. She had a massive episiotomy and no drugs. I love her!!

Yes, well thats how my DD crowned. And was then turned with just her head out

I was told that less than 10% of posterior babies are actually able to be birthed vaginally.

And

for your mum!