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    @Heyside thanks so much for mentioning how wazza said even all the sperm tests cant definately tell (same with bloodt eggs, embies too i guess) I figure my approach and dr.n-s approach is: all the tests in the world sometimes cant tell you why and yes, im sure there are some probs they dont even know exist so how can they test for that? So sometimes, i think, if you just want 'a baby' the best thing to do is just keep swapping the baby making ingredients. Dr.N said to us, "I dont know but sometimes people like you two are just no good together and i dont know why" (meaning it in a nice broken-english way) I kinda appreciate his honesty and its reassuring to hear wazza thinks so too although, it totally sucks for you my lovely friend that this may be the case for you too. I guess sperm can deteriorate just like eggs.

    I just had a crazy idea about going to greece, doing simultaneous own egg ivf with sperm donor and dh sperm, and a donor egg with sperm donor and dh sperm cycle, transfering everything left at day 5 at once and see if i have a Nadia Suleman tribe of mixed up babies from 4 different people. I would totally be famous and get my own reality tv show. Mwoo-haa-haa.
    Omg, just realised it could be 5 people if i used 2 different sperm donors.
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    And here's a short post just to prove i can do one!

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    @Bongley - Thanks hun, yes had a break but ready to get going again. Oh hun you are never out of chances we wouldn't keep going if we thought that was the case. It gets harder and harder though doesn't it.
    @gorgeousgeorge - Yes it seems no tests can determine that everything is good there will always be things that can not yet be tested. Swapping the baby making ingredients until they work sounds like a good strategy.
    We basically had the same conversation with Warren at our last appointment. He didn't know why it wasn't working, he said it could be my eggs so we could do donor eggs, he said it could be DH sperm (due to our embryos slowing down day 4) or it basically could be the fact that together we basically make pretty 'crap' embryos. So we could also consider donor sperm or embies. We have discussed this in advance though and if it wasn't for DD we would consider it but we have to consider ourselves lucky. I still hate to hear her begging for a sibling though, when we told her she had a new cousin a while ago her reply was "I don't want a cousin I want a sister to live with us" - breaks my heart 😢.
    Haha love your plan for a tribe of babies give it all you have got and see what happens!!!

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    @Heyside xox i have a theory about the siblings thingy, i reckon the urge must be totally genuine coz i used to wonder and think "but youve already got a baby, why on earth would you do this to yourself again?" But having watched, listened and learnt from so many ladies on the forums for a few years now, i figure having a baby doesnt cure the 'wanting a baby urge' that descends upon you. So i believe its like an instinct and in a way, it makes me feel less crazy/selfish/unappreciative of what I do have, when i see ladies trying for more xox i think, this thing i feel must be real. But sometimes, i also think that when people want to do the sibling thing because they want the best for the child they do have, i think they often imagine a perfect world scenario where the siblings get along and benefit each other/love each other/ support each other throughout life, which may not actually be the case. To be honest, my brother and sister don't like me, wont socialise with me, give me no support, cant be relied upon and its so sad to say but they mostly make my life more worrisome and difficult. I love them but its not all rainbows and lollipops. I hardly know them really. In my life, its my friends that have replaced and played the role of siblings for me, so im mostly just saying this because i thought it might help ease things if you felt you were doing DD a diservice, when you never know, it might not have worked out the way you imagine and i dont think kids are disadvantaged or damaged by being only kids, if they have friends too coz thats how my life wirked out. If she was always isolated and had no peers/friends i think that would be bad but ive found friends can more than adequately replace siblings, its not the same but its good enough xox I totally get you want another bub for yourself but maybe its not as painful for DD, i dont think she is missing out as much as you may worry about xox
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    @Summer your quiet. Hope you're ok. @gorgeousgeorge i like your tribe idea. @tuxcat i hope you're ok. Sending hugs @Blossom pupo tomorrow oh my.

    Hi to all at work so i know ive missed some but thinking of you all

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    @Summer your quiet. Hope you're ok.
    @gorgeousgeorge i like your tribe idea.
    @tuxcat i hope you're ok. Sending hugs
    @Blossom pupo tomorrow oh my.

    Hi to all at work so i know ive missed some but thinking of you all

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    @Blossom74 good luck today.

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    Sorry to hear @tuxcat and @gorgeousgeorge. Hugs to both of you.

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    @Blossom74 we are all cheering for you today!

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    @gorgeousgeorge and @tuxcat Im very sorry.. A Bfn is evil.
    @Tinachris thinking of you xx
    @Blossom74 good luck today. I find that you like to tease us and tell us you have information but then say you wont share it.

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