@stacey10 snap! On the same page!
stacey10 - I had found that website but haven't had a good read through as yet, so I will to get a better idea of what to expect. One of the initial questions I sent in my email was about doing a single transfer. I am only a very small lady and would be quite worried about carrying twins, let alone triplets, so I really do only want a single transfer - so that is something I want to confirm before we book anything. Four - OMG
Did you end up going to Cyprus for your last bubba or was it back to Czech Republic? Was there anything in particular that turned you away from Cyprus?
How exciting you have found a new destination for egg donation.
I am not going for egg donation but have travelled there so happy to help with any travel related questions.
Cyprus is lovely with a good standard of living. You will also feel safe there (in Larnaca you will probably feel like you are in the U.K with the amount of Brits that go there. English is widely spoken in the south.
Hi @infinity888. We cycles together in April. I am pleased to hear you have been looking in to egg donation and have renewed hope.
@Summer they will do eset but still try an persuade you to put more back, this year there have been a couple of ladies that have stood their ground and gone for eset and have had positive results, I ended up by choosing Czech at the time as it was cheaper ( twins and this current pregnancy )and also when I started looking, 3 years ago, TM was sharing the hospital with dogus, they were looking after the English patients and dogus were looking after mainly local patients, they have since moved into their own clinic, also at that time there were a few unhappy ladies and miscmmunication and a few other things going on, which it seems they have sorted out, as they have recently employed Nicole, before it was just Julie and Umit, I would also be weary of their stats for their fets, as they have only just started using the new freezing, previously at the old clinic they only did the old slow freezing and most of the embryos never made the thaw. From the uk thread they haven't done too many fets as yet but I appreciate that of those that post it's only a small slice of their business there has recently been a law change as well and pgd for sex selection is no longer allowed. It's also hard to get an idea of some of the not so good things that were happening with the clinic a couple of years ago, as the fertilityfriends site is quite heavily moderated and a lot of the negative posts were either removed or edited which isn't such a good thing in my mind but that's how they do the forum, anyway like I've said a lot of that seems to have been ironed out now, the ladies also have set up a Facebook site so they could discuss everything so maybe you could do a search and send a request through, I'm pretty sure it's a closed one if I was starting this again I'd probably go to the Bahceci clinic or my Czech clinic
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@calypso75 yes i never thought i could get here but here i am. Thanks for thinking of me. Ive never been os and to go to cyprus is well a little scary. Just hearing that someone else has been is reassuring. So any little day tours we can do in north cyprus while we are there?
@stacey10 thanks so much i will try to find the fb page. Ive had such a good feeling about TM and nicole has been excellent but if they are terrible i would rather know. I have been on ff and thought things had improved greatly but if its heavily edited then maybe not. I really hope im not making a mistake. Is there anything you can pass on other than the 4embryo transfer and fet that isnt great. Also i straight up asked nicole about gender selection she said the law may change by the end of 2017 but nothing has changed yet? Not that this bothers me too much but still if she is lying about this then i wont be very happy.
Hi @Summer great yes nicole has been fabulous and yes i thought the same all the things they offer are very professional. Nicole sent through my meds list today to take to wazza next wk and the scripts too all the usuals really there is one i dont know about but will google shortly @Phia that story was lovely.
@infinity888 like I said they've ironed out most of the stuff and I think Nicole is better at being straight up with things more so, I would just be weary of their guarantees as sometimes they back out on them, eg I think they guarantee 10 eggs from the donor and one lady only got 7-8 from memory and when she queried them in this they wouldn't respond etc, also when they were in their old clinic they had some type of guarantee that if you wernt successful you got a discount, but then when ladies tried to use that they then said because you didn't buy all your drugs from us for the remainder of the cycle ( at inflated prices) you wernt entitled to the guarantee, this is from when it was just Julie and Umit, just little things like that. Also most of the ladies on the thread said that they wernt taking on any new ladies for pdg for gender selection from now? So I'm not sure on that one just relaying what's been said about it.
Nicole send this through to me this morning - so they are still saying it is available according to this:
Gender selection is completely legal in Northern Cyprus and PGD is one of our most popular treatments. Cyprus IVF Centre is the only ISO regulated IVF hospital with an on-site genetic laboratory in North Cyprus and we can offer PGD to eliminate chromosome abnormalities and allow you to conceive a baby of your desired gender.
The technique of Microsort sperm sorting is included in our PGD package for free. Through our experience, we have found Microsort to be approximately 60% - 70% effective in sorting the sperm into two batches: one male and the other female, prior to fertilisation, and so it will increase your chances of creating embryos of your desired gender. The PGD process will confirm whether the embryos are male or female before we perform the embryo transfer. PGD is the only procedure in the world where gender selection success rates are higher than 99.9% and Dr. Firdevs has great pregnancy success rates with the PGD procedure.
IVF with PGD Gender Selection Costs
The total cost of PGD treatment with Dr. Firdevs using donor eggs and your partner's sperm is 6,600 euros.
The quoted price includes:
- Accommodation assistance (further details below)
- A return transfer from Larnaca airport (South Cyprus) or Ercan airport (North Cyprus) to the hotel*
- All transfers between the hotel and the hospital*
- Trans-vaginal ultrasound scan to establish endometrial thickness
- Egg donor fees, egg donor medication and egg collection procedure with sedation
- Intra-Cytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI)
- EmbryoGlue® Transfer Medium
- PGD laboratory and genetic specialist fees including Microsort sperm sorting
- Embryo transfer procedure with ultrasound guidance
- Prescription for the medication you will need before you come to Cyprus and discounted prices on medication once in Cyprus (all medication must be bought separately)
- Daily support and answers to your queries
- Mobile telephone to use during your time in Cyprus
*Please note airport and hospital transfers only apply if you book one of the approved hotels via Team Miracle and remain there for the duration of your stay.
@stacey10 @Summer @infinity888 I have wondered how they do the "10 egg guarantee" so good to know that it's important to go in with eyes open.
@Infinity - Very exciting, I know how it can be scary travelling to a country you've never been to, but, I agree with others about Cyprus. It's a "functional" country, just different from Aus. I've been to Cyprus twice - the first time was under emergency circumstances (my FIL had a stroke and eventually passed away). We were his only family (Irish/English ex-pat) and had to organise so many medical/nursing home things and paying his bills and then organising his funeral (church service, burial plot, head stone) all in two weeks! Plus, his apartment was in a small town about 40 minutes outside of Larnaka, so we had to do alot of faffing around. Somehow it all worked - yes, you feel like you have to make more calls and ask more questions because you're out of your comfort zone, but it's functional. You don't feel like people are trying to rip you off every other minute (I have been to India a number of times and you have to be on your toes there). At least the cars are on the same side as us here in Australia, so driving was easy.
The highways are luxuriously well planned and we had no problem getting around. The hospital was new and everyone was professional. There are just cultural differences that we would not be used to, like their sense of politeness.. they're not big on please and thank yous and all that jazz, but it doesn't make them less friendly, it just how it is over there. But most people speak perfect English and there are so many ex pats that live there. Nicosia itself is very cosmopolitan - great shopping in the Mall of Cyprus - just like at home but with Euro brands. Massimo Dutti, Zara, Debenhams, etc. There's even an IKEA! So really, it's sort of like home. The bakeries are delicious and there's halloumi on everything (which is delicious!). Having said that I haven't been to Northern Cyprus (Nicosia is divided across the two countries).
I will have accomm and transport sorted, so I'll be interested to know how much it is without the extra stuff.
The 4 FET is a bit a worry... is that because it increases you rate of pregnancy? I have heard many conflicting things about this in terms of whether or not it increases your chances..
Getting really excited!
@Phia wow that sounds lovely. I think its like you said just tough as im out of my comfort zone in many ways. Maybe we can do day trips in the south. But i will definitely be looking to you and calypso for support over the coming weeks. I have so much to organise before i go but i too like summer have a great feeling about this. @stacey10 thanks for your information. Im so nervous and worried that im leading my dh up the garden path that if there is anything dodgy i want to know. Now these lovely ladies are investigating cyprus too that if TM turned out to be a tin shack on the side of the road i would just be devastated. So at least its not that maybe just a few teething problems. I will keep my mind open. Tbh if i get even get 2 pgd normal embies ill be stoked as that would be two more than ive ever had in the previous 7-8 cycles ive done. @Summer im not concerned about the number of embryos being transferred as im sure it depends on wuality. I asked nicole she said if they are top quality usually its 2 at most. If they are poorer quality its 3 or 4 by negotiation. But she said they just want us to be successful so yes in some cases they recommend 4. On ff i noticed out of the ladies that had 4 transferred most ended up with twins or a single. Quads and trips were rare. Maybe it had been edited?
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