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    Default Unethical careers - spin off

    I don't agree that doing something for the money makes it unethical. Don't most people work to make money? Otherwise everyone would just volunteer. And not everyone has the luxury of loving what they do.

    As for defence force. Look, we are lucky to live in a country that is safe and doesn't need defending (for now). But if we didn't have an army/navy/Air Force, we would be vulnerable to invasions and attack, particularly seeing as we have bountiful natural resources, a tonne of land, and a small population of people who don't have guns.

    If you have an issue with the defence force, is this exclusively for Australia or generally speaking, globally? Some countries would not exist today if they didn't have a defence force. Israel for example.

    ETA - and I imagine Europe would look quite different too post-holocaust if there had been no force to be reckoned with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Defence. I don't know how anyone could want to train to kill another person
    My DH was in the defence force for 25 yrs. never had to kill anyone !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Going to other countries and shooting and bombing is part and parcel of the job. People know that if they join it is highly likely they will be deployed and have to kill people.
    But they do defend innocent people, WWII. Going into countries for peace keeping missions etc.

    Your post makes me pretty sad, my dad is a Vietnam Vet, he served in the US Air Force. Obviously a controversial war and he volunteered to go as he believed in the cause at the time. He's one of the most genuine and ethical people I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louise41 View Post
    My DH was in the defence force for 25 yrs. never had to kill anyone !
    Did he go on any peacemaking or peacekeeping missions? I hear Defence force staff often do those to (eg helping out after the Tsunami in Indonesia)

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    Default Unethical careers - spin off

    My job is def not aligned with my beliefs and ethics. I work for a very very large industry contributing to climate change and I don't like it.
    I'm not doing anything about it though except making active changes in my lifestyle that used to contribute to climate change especially: commuting with my bike, using the car 4 times a month max, switching all our electricity to green sourced.

    But not changing employer

    I def think less of friends working for defense companies, working on making the best weapons that will kill the most ppl.

    That's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Did he go on any peacemaking or peacekeeping missions? I hear Defence force staff often do those to (eg helping out after the Tsunami in Indonesia)
    Exactly, the US military went Haiti to help after the hurricane a few years ago. Helping during hurricane Katrina, helping when genocide was happening in the former Yugoslavia, etc.

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    Default Unethical careers - spin off

    I think:
    - there are some industries that 'generally speaking' have more 'unethical' or 'undesired' elements to them.
    - ethical people can work in ethical roles in an unethical industry (eg I don't think Judd is a bad chick at all but the industry she works in (IMO) is sucky.
    - unethical people can work in ethical roles in an ethical industry (eg pedophile teachers who steal teaching equipment from the storeroom)

    One industry that I cannot understand why anyone would work in it (and I would judge the heck out of anyone who worked in it) is the Tobacco industry. I mean WTF. What you're flogging is killing people (nowhere near as bad as Judd and the spray tan business).
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    Here's one: anyone who works for or helped create Ashley Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    Here's one: anyone who works for or helped create Ashley Madison
    Ooooo good one!

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    Agree - tobacco industry and Ashley Madison are off. Very off.


 
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