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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
    Politicians that toe the party line and vote for things even if they are policies the individual disagrees with.....
    I don't know how people can live with that.
    I can understand this. I've known a lot of people involved in politics and the explanation I hear more often than not is everything is about compromise. You might not support eg a tax but if your support means the people in your area get road upgrades then you support it.

    Not saying I could do it but negotiations and bargaining is part and parcel of what I do for a living so I see the other side to this.

    But on moral positions I struggle.

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    I would only think less of a friend or family member if their career involved something outright unethical, and that they were perfectly okay with it. I don't respect people who don't have a conscience.

    I don't recall ever feeling forced to do anything unethical in any job I've had. I'm a pretty honest stickler for rules myself, so I wouldn't stick around in a job/career that forced me to be unethical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    My DH used to work in hospitality for years and there were some conflict of interests for him. Working in the Clubs (RSL) gaming machines are huge. Dh's family have a long history of addiction including pokie addiction and towards the end of him working in this industry he got really disgusted by the way the clubs pushed people to sink money into the machines. Stuff like providing free alcohol in certain 'promotions' so they got so drunk the addicts just sunk in everything they had Free/discounted dinners in the bistro. Tickets in prize draws if they were actively playing a pokie.

    He then worked in a pub for a short while and though they didn't have all the pokies, responsible service of alcohol was non existent. In fact the owner would actually chastise DH for cutting off regulars who were so drunk they were fighting each other, could hardly walk. Had those idiots fallen down and hit their head they could have easily sued DH for serving them well beyond the point of intoxication and won
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    Interesting question. I wouldn't consider the people working in clubs responsible but if the management encouraged gambling like Del suggests happens then yes I would say that's undesirable.

    Gambling is so far removed from my world i hadn't thought of that.
    I asked the question because this is my career of 14 years. I have often wrestled with this very question asked by op myself over the years. Just like @delirium's dh, I work in an RSL. I started off as a casual doing clean up for some easy cash all those years ago and eventually found my way to duty management.whilst I am not creating the promotions that entice the player, I am helping to market them to the player through my front line position. Despite this I consider my job honest as I work very hard, during unsocial hours to earn an honest living.

    So my point is... whilst the job is potentially unethical, the person performing it is still putting in an honest days work for an honest days pay (providing they are a worker/employee and not the major beneficiary of the questionable gains.

    I hope I'm making some sense... my 2 year old has been climbing all over me.

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    When I worked in an electrical retail store, we used to heavily steer people away from renting things. The cost was huge and it relies on the vulnerable that wouldn't be approved for interest free cards (GE/GO etc).

    For the same reasons, I dislike companies like Motor Finance Wizard or payday loan companies.

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    I worked in a gaming room while I was a full time student at uni and I have to say, it didn't sit right with me at all. Especially seeing elderly people spending their bus money on poker machines. Very sad. My boss told me I wasn't allowed to talk to any of them about the posters on the walls regarding gambling addiction and where to get help. They had to just decide on their own to pay attention to those advertisements. Needless to say, I didn't work there for long. Maybe a few months. It was depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenBlue View Post
    I asked the question because this is my career of 14 years. I have often wrestled with this very question asked by op myself over the years. Just like @delirium's dh, I work in an RSL. I started off as a casual doing clean up for some easy cash all those years ago and eventually found my way to duty management.whilst I am not creating the promotions that entice the player, I am helping to market them to the player through my front line position. Despite this I consider my job honest as I work very hard, during unsocial hours to earn an honest living.

    So my point is... whilst the job is potentially unethical, the person performing it is still putting in an honest days work for an honest days pay (providing they are a worker/employee and not the major beneficiary of the questionable gains.

    I hope I'm making some sense... my 2 year old has been climbing all over me.
    Oh absolutely. The hours are complete crap, you have to work on all the public holidays. My comments certainly weren't criticising those on the floor. At least where DH worked, it was lots of uni students, people with young families just trying to pay their bills and make ends meet. The shift work plays havoc with your body too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Oh absolutely. The hours are complete crap, you have to work on all the public holidays. My comments certainly weren't criticising those on the floor. At least where DH worked, it was lots of uni students, people with young families just trying to pay their bills and make ends meet. The shift work plays havoc with your body too.
    I didn't take your comments as criticism at all, more fair commentary on an industry plagued with huge social/economic issues.

    And to the above Pp, some venues are more ethical than others. I work for a top 10 and more commonly top 5 club in NSW, we are encouraged to help people seek help. We have all kinds of information in many different languages posted around different areas. I've encouraged and helped people take part in self exclusion programs. I've asked people to leave as part of such programs. I also understand that all venues are so inclined to help their patrons make choices that impacts on their revenue. It's sad and I don't blame you for not being able to continue your employment with such an unethical employer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenBlue View Post
    Would you consider persons that work in hospitality I.e gaming to fall under this umbrella?
    gaming is even worse!

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    Defence. I don't know how anyone could want to train to kill another person

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Defence. I don't know how anyone could want to train to kill another person
    Sorry meant to quote not thank, DD jumped on me when I was typing

    I think defence personnel train with the primary objective of defending and saving lives, not killing people.

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