I just have one more thought to add and then I'm going to hopefully move on.
In regards to the comments that we're not letting the conversation move on, only focusing on the *few* negative things that were said, etc. My thoughts are this, why do we automatically feel the need to criticize another woman in a thread where that wasn't even the topic? I saw you started a sisterhood thread delirium with the thought that there is some sort of sisterhood where we are not allowed to criticize other women...really? Because I think women are often much nastier to each other than men are. We constantly judge and put other women down whether it is in regards to their appearance, how they mother, etc. My point in this discussion is why do we do that? Why, when the discussion started has nothing to do with that do we still turn in that direction and find something to criticize? To me, how women typically react to each other and treat each other when another woman holds different values is just as important a discussion as the effects of the beauty industry. How can we teach our daughters to respect themselves and subsequently others if the example we show is automatically needing to make unkind comments about somebody? That's been my stance this whole thread. You can keep saying, but the conversation has moved on, but has it? To me it seems like others have pretty much been saying 'but it doesn't matter if we are unkind or disrespectful because what we are trying to discuss is a much bigger issue.' That just doesn't make sense to me and why probably many of us are not taking on bored your (general) argument. You can't start a discussion about the dangers of the beauty industry by automatically criticizing somebody's looks, it just makes the rest of us think that side of the discussion is automatically hypocritical.
Anyways, times to move on!