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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    A quick sidetrack...Sonja, have you seen the "Will and Grace" episode that was just filmed in support of Clinton/opposition of Trump? On YouTube...VERY funny.


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    I worry for my daughter too. It's like sand bagging against a constant flood And it isn't so much Bec is skinny (although I think she and others like her build unobtainable goals for many females) it's simply how consumed with her appearance and physicality she is. I want my daughter to define herself by her intelligence, her internal value. I want her to aspire to be a dr, an author, a scientist. Not to define herself by her weight or what brand of bikinis she is selling.

    And this is really what my concerns over not just Judd, but lots of 'celeb's like her are.

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    I worry for my daughter too. It's like sand bagging against a constant flood And it isn't so much Bec is skinny (although I think she and others like her build unobtainable goals for many females) it's simply how consumed with her appearance and physicality she is. I want my daughter to define herself by her intelligence, her internal value. I want her to aspire to be a dr, an author, a scientist. Not to define herself by her weight or what brand of bikinis she is selling.

    And this is really what my concerns over not just Judd, but lots of 'celeb's like her are.
    Why can't a woman care about her appearance and be intelligent? As a working lawyer I consider myself fairly bright but also love fashion makeup and design. I wear a lot of designer clothes but still contribute to charities and volunteer.

    Why can't women do both ie aspire to be a scientist and also like her own appearance? Do they have to be mutually exclusive?

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    I recently went to a conference called "Resilient Kids", and one of the speakers was a lady called Susan Maclean. She is an ex-Police-woman from Victoria, and gave a presentation on "Cyber-Issues and Kids". I loved her; she was a no-bullsh!t lady with a lot of very real experience in the potentially very damaging area of social media and children. She has a book called "Texts, Sexts and Selfies", which I am yet to read, but looks very interesting.

    Her main point?...Don't underestimate the damage social media can do to your kids in their formative years.

    Yes, Sonja you are old enough to have a professional career and be interested in fashion. But the influence of the selfie, such as the skeletal-bikini one posted earlier of Judd, terrifies me.

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    I recently went to a conference called "Resilient Kids", and one of the speakers was a lady called Susan Maclean. She is an ex-Police-woman from Victoria, and gave a presentation on "Cyber-Issues and Kids". I loved her; she was a no-bullsh!t lady with a lot of very real experience in the potentially very damaging area of social media and children. She has a book called "Texts, Sexts and Selfies", which I am yet to read, but looks very interesting.

    Her main point?...Don't underestimate the damage social media can do to your kids in their formative years.

    Yes, Sonja you are old enough to have a professional career and be interested in fashion. But the influence of the selfie, such as the skeletal-bikini one posted earlier of Judd, terrifies me.

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    Which is why my daughter won't have social media until she's in high school. At the earliest.

    I'm going to a protective behaviours Worksop this month at my girls school on this topic. Trust me it scares the --- out of me.

    All selfies are terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Why can't a woman care about her appearance and be intelligent? As a working lawyer I consider myself fairly bright but also love fashion makeup and design. I wear a lot of designer clothes but still contribute to charities and volunteer.

    Why can't women do both ie aspire to be a scientist and also like her own appearance? Do they have to be mutually exclusive?
    But there is a difference between caring about your appearance and defining yourself by it.

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    But there is a difference between caring about your appearance and defining yourself by it.
    Agree. But I don't particularly want my daughter to define herself by her career either. I did that for many years until I had kids and bam my career disappeared. I don't define myself by either.

    I just want my kids to be happy. Honestly in my experience I'd prefer it didn't come from their appearance or what they do for a living. I'd rather it be by their actions and what makes them happy.

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    All I saw in the pic was a happy family !

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    I actually feel bad for the kids (and I appreciate that carries with it an inherent judgment). They have no choice in whether they're photos are splashed all over the Internet. I often wonder how the kids of the generation will be as adults when so much of their lives are public.

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    This may be long and rambled and off the original topic but I think this is important.

    Social media. It is not going anywhere. Many here have expressed not liking it/not knowing what to do. I want to address some aspects of it.

    What is social media and how does it work? Well the point of social media is another form of communication. This communication can be private between select people - or more public. But this is the important bit. Behind every social media account is a person. Social media is a way of communication. Communication is face to face. Over the phone. And now - over the internet.

    The internet thing is fairly new when it comes to communication. We got it and quite frankly had no idea WTF to do - how to act. The 2nd generation is now using it. But has not been told 'how' to use it (I will explain what I mean soon).

    I will take the current person/topic as my example. A picture on IG is posted of 2 new additions to the family. The person chose to share this photo - great! We now have responses on here ranging from 'cute babies' to 'she has had work done'. The reasoning behind us giving our opinion is 'well she put it out there'.

    So, I will give this same example a different way. You meet Chris or Bek outside school/dinner/party/on the street. They show you the same pic. What will you see? What would you say? Would you say 'you have had work done' or 'you're too skinny' or 'yucky' or even 'you're a knob for showing this'?

    Would you say 'nice family' or nothing and then go to your friends with the above comments?

    If you think it is mean/off/bad/wrong to do the above the same applies to social media.

    For those that then day 'but I don't know this person so I can criticise them' - or 'they are posting bikini pics so they deserve criticism' - do you go to someone walking on the beach and tell them they look yuck/wrong/inappropriate?

    Which brings me to another point. We need to learn about social media. Our kids need to be taught how to use social media - not just what they post with pics etc but how they interact with everyone.

    Because somewhere along the line we forgot that we are still interacting with PEOPLE. And thay people have feelings. And that the same communication 'rules' apply whether it is face to face, in the phone, in writing on a letter or over the internet on social media.

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