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    sorry but you do just make a choice to quit the fags. it's not that hard. I quit cold turkey and haven't gone back. I'm sick of the excuses people make for smokers. grow the f.ck up and put your baby's health first. it's actually that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    Anything that encourages people to stop smoking, particularly pregnant women, I think is good. But I'm not sure $50 would be much of an incentive. If it works, great.
    100% this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    sorry but you do just make a choice to quit the fags. it's not that hard. I quit cold turkey and haven't gone back. I'm sick of the excuses people make for smokers. grow the f.ck up and put your baby's health first. it's actually that easy.
    It was that easy for you. That's great news for you. There is a difference between making excuses for people with an addiction and actually shaming them and devaluing the strength of their addiction.

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    I was addicted! I smoked for about 15 years. made a number of pathetic attempts to quit. I realised it was up to me if I wanted to make it happen though. it was tough, don't get me wrong. but i look back and i wouldn't say it was one of the hardest things I've done.

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    I was/am too! Like I said earlier in this thread, I didn't smoke a single cigarette as soon as I found out I was pregnant. And it's great that you stopped, I mean that sincerely.

    I just really don't dig shaming people who are struggling with any kind of addiction. And I think a byproduct of that shaming is the behaviour that makes people sneak around and lie to people they care about, and people that feel more $hit than they already do about being 'weak', 'not caring enough', not being able to just 'make a simple decision' and all of the other stuff that gets thrown at them, which makes their willpower weaker in the long run.

    Because why value yourself enough to go through something that for many people is a really difficult thing to achieve if other people speak so contemptuously of you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    sorry but you do just make a choice to quit the fags. it's not that hard. I quit cold turkey and haven't gone back. I'm sick of the excuses people make for smokers. grow the f.ck up and put your baby's health first. it's actually that easy.
    I agree. I gave up alcohol cold turkey after being a big drinker for years. Now to give up the sh!t food lol

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    I don't think the vouchers will encourage anyone to quit. If someone isn't able to quit based on the incentive of the health of their unborn baby then $50 isn't going to change that.

    Save the $50 and spend the $$ on a pre-conceiving education campaign.
    - "wanna kid? Give up the fags first, get blood work done, check your health, make sure you don't have a dip**** partner etc"

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    Like I said before I believe addiction is complex.

    I admit I was never addicted to smoking so have no experience but I do come from a family that seems to have a high rate of people with addictions (alcohol, smoking and gambling).

    There is also a high rate of people in my family (same side) that suffer from a MI.

    Those that have a MI have been unable to stop their addictions - that is not to say they are necessarily connected but what I am trying to say is some people may have something else bigger going on that their addiction is connected to - so as much as they WANT to it's like they CANNOT.

    Who knows. Maybe I am spouting BS. But I am on the side of encouragement and support rather than judgement and shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    ...But I am on the side of encouragement and support rather than judgement and shame.
    I agree

    Righteousness doesn't achieve anything except for the righteous to feel superior. About as effective in changing smoking rates as a $50 I reckon.

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    Maybe this thread will wake them up!
    Wow. Tell me about how perfect you are please?


 

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