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    Oh thank God!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinos77 View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas- Thank you for this list. Can this also be taken for egg donor cycle and also can these supplements be taken as soon as possible before cycle starts? I am looking at starting an egg donor cycle again which will be my last and final try with IVF- 11th IVF cycle

    The whole list can be taken for OE Cycles Luv and if you were doing a DE Cycle then you'd drop the DHEA, Melatonin, CoQ10, Royal Jelly as they're all for egg quality.

    I don't know if you have a male DP/DH but if you do, he can keep taking all of those supplements either way Wazza gets his Girls to start them asap but apparently you reap the most benefit if you can take them for a minimum of 3 months first. That theory doesn't seem to bother Wazza as he has never mentioned that. As I said he gets you to start taking them at the beginning of your Cycle. I just continually kept taking them between Cycle 4 and 5 non-stop.


    and prayers being sent that this will be your lucky last Cycle Luv!!!!


    You better keep us all updated regularly now Luv!!!!

    P.S.......It's been bought to my attention that there's been an ammendment: The new dosage for Co-Q10 is now 600mg's/day for both men and women. Shall update the list now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace1 View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas do you know if the aspirin off Wazzas list for everyone to take or just those with immune issues or previous miscarriage? thx x
    @Mongol I usually only get one scan and bt at my clinic on day 9 and that's it (& this is with Monash). I find it annoying as I worry if there's any issues its too late by then to do anything about it.
    @tuxcat so glad everything's going well for you, so exciting!!
    @Billie2 around xmas is my cut off for ivf too - can't wait for it to be over - one way or another - and be able to get on with my life. Can't even plan a holiday atm which is so frustrating!!
    @Green lady how's everything going with you?
    @Maxwellsmum hello to you - how are you going?

    hello to everyone else. Hope you're all doing well.

    That's standard for everyone Luv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie74 View Post
    Morning girls,
    @Mongol Wazza now says for both the girl & the guy to take 600mg of CoQ10- he said yesterday he used to say 300 but now he's decided 600mg is best
    Thanks for that Luv...will amend the supplements list

    How are you doing today???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongol View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas thanks for your very helpful post. I'll start Wazza's supplements ASAP. I figure buying them from websites such as iherb will be much cheaper.
    FYI to all the ladies here, my protocol was the last stim cycle was:
    Gonal f 400 for 11 days (starting cycle day 2)
    Orgalutran 250 for 7 days (starting cycle day 6)
    Luveris 75 for 5 days (starting cycle day 5)
    Neupogen 0.09ml SCI for 8 days (starting cycle day 2)

    I had the trigger injection (Ovidrel) on cycle day 13 and the last ultrasound scan showed 8 follicles measuring between 14-21mm. However at EPU only 6 eggs were retrieved and 4 of those were not mature. 2 were fertilised and reached day 5 but disintegrated before the advanced blastocyst stage which was required for biopsy as we were going to do PGD.
    If you can offer some suggestions as to what I could try next, that would be highly appreciated.
    I am questioning whether I needed Luveris as my FS prescribed it to me without checking my LH levels. I didn't have a blood test at the start of my cycle, the first BT I had was on Day 9. So I'm not sure how he knew that I need Luveris. He prescribed it to me when I enquired about whether I should take it. Its all very confusing..

    Ok...now that I have a minute to respond to you finally!!

    Firstly, you could change your FSH to either: Puregon or Menopur or Elonva instead of Gonal-F.

    You could also do a combination of Puregon+Menopur (which is what I did in Cycle 5) or Gonal-F + Menopur, Elonva + a top up of either Menopur/Gonal-F or Puregon (not sure if they use Luveris to top up with???).

    You could change the Orgalutran for Cetrotide (I used Cetrotide on both Cycles 4 and 5) and change the Ovidrel for a Pregnyl Trigger instead which might help to get more mature eggs at EPU. Definitely make sure they're aspirating all the bloody follicles and removing all the eggs too FFS's!!! That's what you're paying them for!!!!

    Yes, some eggs will be immature, but if some eggs are close to being mature, then there's always the chance they *might* mature in the dish in the lab (it's happened to my eggs before). As for how many days you stim. It does vary according to how your ovaries respond. Some women may stim for 10/11 days, others may go for 11/12/13 days. Obviously you don't want to be going for 20 days as I would imagine that would compromise your egg quality....A good question for Wazza methinks!!!

    As for Luveris/LH levels...yes they should be being monitored via BT's through your stimming Cycle. Wazza was going to add Luveris when I was doing Cycle 4 (I did a combination of Gonal-F and Menopur which does have a little bit of LH in it already as has been mentioned) but my levels were good so I didn't need anymore. Too much of that stuff (like anything) isn't good for the developing egg either so it's important that regular BT's are done in the Cycle as well as scans too. You could also try adding HGH (Human Growth Hormone) to your Cycle for egg quality as well. Some women swear by it, others (like myself), feel as though it doesn't make much difference (tried it on Cycle 4 though I do feel it may have helped for Cycle 5 as the effects stay in your system for a few months or so afterwards). It's bloody exxy though I do believe you can get some $ back if you have PHI.

    Wazza does get you to do the FSH on alternative days and he also gets you to split the dose morn/night as he believes that promotes more even and uniform follicle growth. For eg. One day I would do 300IU of Puregon. 150IU at 7.30am in the morn and 150IU at 7.30pm at night (I aimed to do it roughly 12 hrs later but you could do it give or take a couple of hrs either way). I'm what they call a "normal responder". The next day I would do the same with Menopur. The following day the Puregon. The next, Menopur and so on and so forth.

    Are you a "poor responder" Luv hence the higher dose of FSH?? On my first Cycle with Wazza (Cycle 4) I did a super dooper high FSH dose (600IU) but it made fruck all difference to egg numbers for me so told him I wanted to dial it back down to a lower dose for my next Cycle. Was happy to have tried it in my "leaving no stone unturned" quest, but for me a higher dose wasn't helpful like it is for some women. What dosages have you tried in the past????

    What protocols have you also tried?? Long down regs?? Flare?? You could try the AACEP protocol like I did to see how that would go???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pingc383 View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas - when you did the alternate Gonal f / menopur, do you remember how many eggs you got? Someone else followed that same protocol and got a whopping 29 eggs when she used to only get 13 eggs!

    I did that on Cycle 4. Changed it to Puregon and Menopur on Cycle 5.

    God, I would've been happy with "only 13 eggs" at any time!!!!

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    Ok, I'm having another moment of panic...(it's that kind of day, sorry )


    In a case of TMI, I just went to the loo for #2's. That's right - stuff is allowed out, but nothing goes UP!

    Anyway, I made the mistake of 'looking back' afterwards. Just why I have no idea, and now I wish I hadn't.

    The toilet was full of pinky-red water. Couldn't see the 'product of my labours' but the water was definitely a strange pink/red hue.

    Now...I did eat a spicy hot tuscan chicken last night - chilli and tomato. And I do have a terrible stitch-like pain in my left side. And I've confirmed I'm not bleeding vaginally and my urine has come clear.

    So.

    Am I dying?

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    Today I hate IVF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Ok, I'm having another moment of panic...(it's that kind of day, sorry )


    In a case of TMI, I just went to the loo for #2's. That's right - stuff is allowed out, but nothing goes UP!

    Anyway, I made the mistake of 'looking back' afterwards. Just why I have no idea, and now I wish I hadn't.

    The toilet was full of pinky-red water. Couldn't see the 'product of my labours' but the water was definitely a strange pink/red hue.

    Now...I did eat a spicy hot tuscan chicken last night - chilli and tomato. And I do have a terrible stitch-like pain in my left side. And I've confirmed I'm not bleeding vaginally and my urine has come clear.

    So.

    Am I dying?

    No blood on the toilet paper Luv??

    Unless you've got some kind on an anal fissure that may have torn or a hemorrhoid that's possibly bled then I'd put it down to "Curry Butt"...in particular the tomato making an exit

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    No blood on the toilet paper Luv??

    Unless you've got some kind on an anal fissure that may have torn or a hemorrhoid that's possibly bled then I'd put it down to "Curry Butt"...in particular the tomato making an exit

    Nope, haven't noticed anything on the paper but didn't look at the paper til near the end lol.

    God. What has my life become.

    Am thinking I won't ring the GP just yet. By tomorrow I'll need to go again and we'll 'see' where it's up to then. And I have an appt set for Tuesday for other matters anyway. Hopefully I won't cark it over the weekend....

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