Last edited by Mongol; 15-09-2016 at 20:07.
Last edited by Mongol; 15-09-2016 at 19:36.
@Mongol I'm sorry to hear your news. I know how devastating it is to get that news. I hope your next plan helps you feel positive but for now enjoy life not thinking about ivf for a few days at least. I'll have a wine for you.
Ok...what protocol were you just on for your last Cycle Luv??? Let us all know here on "The Panel" and we'll all give you our advice on what we think you could try next time to help maximise your chances Write it down and then take it to your FS to discuss at your next appointment This is Wazza's Supplements List and yes, you can take them in addition to your Mulitivitamin
For Her: Folic Acid (Megafol brand usually over the counter at the chemist) 1x5mg tab a day, Berroca 1x day (I substituted a Mega B capsule instead), Fish Oil 1000mg's a day, Zinc- 40mg's a day, Vitamin E 500mg's (1000iu) a day, Co-Enzyme Q10 600mg's a day , Low dose aspirin 100mg's a day, DHEA 3x25mg caps a day, Melatonin 1x5mg capsule at night. I also added Vit D as I was low in it and Fresh Royal Jelly (1/2tsp a day) but you could take it capsule form too.
For Him: Aloe Vera Juice 20mls at night, Zinc 40mg's, Pumpkin seeds >10 per day (I just gave DP 1 tbs of peppita's every day), Folic Acid 5mg's a day, Goji berries 1xtbs a day or 20 mls a day of Goji berry juice, Selenium 100mcg/day, Co-Q10 600mg's/day.
You can take all of these right up until EPU (except the DHEA, you have to decrease to 1 capsule a day from Day 2 of stimms until EPU). You also need a script for the DHEA/Melatonin here in Aus and have it made up at a Compounding Chemist.
Some of the Girls here on BH buy it online from o/seas. I think they use sites like iHerb to purchase it?
I've recently bought stuff off iHerb with no issues just so you know (paid for it via my PayPal account).
P.S...If any of the dosages have changed, could one of Wazza's current Girls please chime in and let us know????
Last edited by BlondeinBrisvegas; 16-09-2016 at 11:34.
tuxcat oh, i do so hope she has a nice bunch of juicy ripe follies too. Im sending out prayers to the universe for that to happen.
No, i dont get any info until i get there. This worried me at first but i get it now. I think that because its anonymous anyway and i dont get to choose, it really doesnt matter whether i know anything or not and its totally helped me to not start imagining/hoping/thinking (aka worrying) about aspects related to our donor. I think the clinic does this because in greece your clinic finds 2 suitable donors, so you have a back up, say if donor 1 has low follies or something like that. So they can take the donor with the best response all the way to epu. So, they prob dont tell you stats n info because they dont know yet. So the clinic always just has a constant supply of donors that are registered with the clinic. I like that the fs is the one choosing the donor. I like that someone scientific is making the choice because my choice wouldnt be as objective. I dont want the added responsibility and stress of having to select the donor. Im a big woos. My last round of ivf nearly did me in. I cant face anymore stuff like waiting for an unknown period if time to find a donor or the stress, travel, selection process, advertising myself for a local donor. Im kinda strong but i just cant do that. Not strong enough for that process. This weighs on my mind because i know one day maybe, a decision i made will impact another person's life, maybe significantly. And i totally acknowledge that. But Id rather give up altogether than stay in limbo land. etc.. and i can literally only afford 3 oseas cycle over the next 7 years if thats what it takes. So finances have also affected my choices and i dont beat myself up about that affecring my choices.
So in greece, they say they legally have to consider 4 things: someone with similar hair colour, eye colour, height/weight/build and skin tone. And it seems to me that dr n is to athens, what wazza is to australia so i trust that he will do this. The clinic says donors are proven and under 35 (?i think- preferably under 32 maybe, i cant remember coz im mostly at peace with my decisions so far on this particular journey, ive let stuff go, forgotten stuff, like totally less stressed). I trust that he will find me a donor that matches what they say they do. So, i know it might seem weird but im cool with not knowing. No use telling me if they're not sure yet. I figure, its not like im gonna get there, find out my donor has different coloured hair than mine, or be 20cm shorter than me and be all like, "Nup. Not doing it then. Going home."( I hope she's like 20 years old or something though. )
At the moment (and for the last 10 weeks), im mentally processing the anonymous donor factor and how that affects people's lives. Trying to understand how that could possibly impact a child and learning about identity, generics and environmental influences, etc... I've bought lots of sciency/ psychology books about epigenetics, donor conception experiences, identity development, etc... Its just as interesting as learning about infertility and its good stuff to know as a teacher coz its about people and how people work and that knowledge makes you more kind and compassionate, i reckon. :-)
@BlondeinBrisvegas thanks for your very helpful post. I'll start Wazza's supplements ASAP. I figure buying them from websites such as iherb will be much cheaper.
FYI to all the ladies here, my protocol was the last stim cycle was:
Gonal f 400 for 11 days (starting cycle day 2)
Orgalutran 250 for 7 days (starting cycle day 6)
Luveris 75 for 5 days (starting cycle day 5)
Neupogen 0.09ml SCI for 8 days (starting cycle day 2)
I had the trigger injection (Ovidrel) on cycle day 13 and the last ultrasound scan showed 8 follicles measuring between 14-21mm. However at EPU only 6 eggs were retrieved and 4 of those were not mature. 2 were fertilised and reached day 5 but disintegrated before the advanced blastocyst stage which was required for biopsy as we were going to do PGD.
If you can offer some suggestions as to what I could try next, that would be highly appreciated.
I am questioning whether I needed Luveris as my FS prescribed it to me without checking my LH levels. I didn't have a blood test at the start of my cycle, the first BT I had was on Day 9. So I'm not sure how he knew that I need Luveris. He prescribed it to me when I enquired about whether I should take it. Its all very confusing..
@gorgeousgeorge ok, interesting, I didn't know any of that. I guess there will be a lot of parents out there in years to come in the same boat in regards to kids with anon donors. I'm sure there's a lot of information and advice out there that can help you work through it. I get why people go overseas, the local thing isn't easy especially if you do want someone to be pretty anonymous. I guess it's just a personal decision, because I think for me the overseas option seemed harder when I started out thinking about de. In the end for us it was due to wanting a known donor so that was the most direct path I guess. We are very aware of how lucky we are in regards to finding someone so wonderful, for once we have been lucky in something to do with this roller coaster of a ride.
@Mongol go the gluten! I was on the same supplements as per what @BlondeinBrisvegas has posted (@BiB dosages are the same). Plus Inofolic and metformin for PCOS/PCO. You can get Inofolic at the The Mill Pharmacy, Brisbane. Unfortunately the link I had for information on Inofolic is broken, but it is supposed to improve metabolic and hormonal disorders, regulate menstral cycle and improve egg quality.
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