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    Tasmania wanted to lower the school starting age and make it compulsory for 4 year olds to go to school at 4 but they changed their mind.

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    Default What age to start school?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Tasmania wanted to lower the school starting age and make it compulsory for 4 year olds to go to school at 4 but they changed their mind.
    Isn't that called pre-school and although it's not compulsary many parents complain when it's not free/heavily subsidised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Isn't that called pre-school and although it's not compulsary many parents complain when it's not free/heavily subsidised?
    No they wanted to change the age for compulsory schooling to 4.5

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...74?pfmredir=sm

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    I knew we are in the minority for sending our kids early, but I was shocked that 88% of the world are sending their kids later than Australia. That says a lot.

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    Yet more and more local students are going to uni than ever before, it can't be that bad that we have the current age rules in place if so many students are ready for tertiary study once they finish school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    Yet more and more local students are going to uni than ever before, it can't be that bad that we have the current age rules in place if so many students are ready for tertiary study once they finish school.
    As a university educator I wouldn't say that so many are going because they are 'ready'. It's more to do with a general push in society towards credentialism, an expectation that you will go to university and policy measures which almost forcefully encourage it.
    Some academics now consider first year of Uni as essentially 'year 13'.
    The push to get so many young people in, and through, university is not tied to their readiness and the appalling first year attrition rates partly attest to many not being ready (there are a whole bunch of other reasons for attrition too). I personally do think that 17 turning 18 is too young to start Uni but having said that for some it is fine. It's one of those things that is so often dependent on the individual and their maturity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    As a university educator I wouldn't say that so many are going because they are 'ready'. It's more to do with a general push in society towards credentialism, an expectation that you will go to university and policy measures which almost forcefully encourage it.
    Some academics now consider first year of Uni as essentially 'year 13'.
    The push to get so many young people in, and through, university is not tied to their readiness and the appalling first year attrition rates partly attest to many not being ready (there are a whole bunch of other reasons for attrition too). I personally do think that 17 turning 18 is too young to start Uni but having said that for some it is fine. It's one of those things that is so often dependent on the individual and their maturity.
    I started Uni at 17 (qld) and agree it's too young. I couldn't drink at O-week!

    Pretty much everyone in my year was in the same boat though. Back before we got 'prep' in qld we were always a year younger than our 'southern' cousins in the same school year. Some of my friends had literally only 'just' turned 17 weeks before they started Uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    As a university educator I wouldn't say that so many are going because they are 'ready'. It's more to do with a general push in society towards credentialism, an expectation that you will go to university and policy measures which almost forcefully encourage it.
    Some academics now consider first year of Uni as essentially 'year 13'.
    The push to get so many young people in, and through, university is not tied to their readiness and the appalling first year attrition rates partly attest to many not being ready (there are a whole bunch of other reasons for attrition too). I personally do think that 17 turning 18 is too young to start Uni but having said that for some it is fine. It's one of those things that is so often dependent on the individual and their maturity.
    I agree with your last sentence especially. Working in a tertiary institution myself, attrition rates vary widely and what I've found is that ESL and low SES students show the biggest attrition rate.

    I think expectation to go to uni isn't as strong as it once was, I'm constantly blown away by how mature final year secondary school students are, so many of these future students are heading to uni very much ready for it.

    I think though just like the theories about kids being ready for primary school and Uni, there's early, on time and late but not by age, but by individual.

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    I think we should have compulsory gap year but not to travel etc maybe army reserves etc.. I'm not sure.

    Kids these days are just different and lack so much. Plus that year would help figure out a bit. Volunteer in NT or something I dunno but just a year community service before study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    Yet more and more local students are going to uni than ever before, it can't be that bad that we have the current age rules in place if so many students are ready for tertiary study once they finish school.
    It's got nothing to do with them being ready. It's a big money maker. You now need to go to uni to be a police officer in NSW. That would make it seem like there are more students than ever when really it's just that more jobs require a degree. Years ago you went to nursing school and teacher college but now they're all university courses.

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