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    Hi everyone,
    lots happening in here

    @skeeter excellent news on your 3 frosties

    @LillyM awesome number of eggs collected - woohoo!!! Do you usually do a day 3 or 5 transfer? Hope you're resting up..

    @pingc383 sorry you only found out today about those issues., I hope you're ok.hugs...

    @Caesardust good luck to you x

    @Heyside hugs to you.. not long now till your bt, fingers crossed for you

    @ange1111 will you do another stim cycle with the next cycle or do you have to wait a while?

    @Blossom74 glad your counseling session went well, those sorts of things are so nerve wracking,

    @Summer so sorry to hear your news

    hi to everyone else,

    Afm my one and only emby is on board so I'm very, very thankful I got to transfer.
    thank you all for your support and encouragement,,.. you are all AWESOME. !!!
    Last edited by Grace1; 19-08-2016 at 22:39.

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    @Grace1 thats so good to hear that your emby was still going strong and im so glad u made it to transfer. Will be thinking of you in the next 2 weeks xox

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    @Summer - That is somebstory you have there hun so frustrating when you can achieve the natural pregnancy but not manage to keep it and for so many different reasons. Don't blame yourself for it hun yes your progesterone sounded good but the extra support definitely couldn't have done any harm and will have only benefited things. You definitely need to voice your concerns with someone and see where to go from here. Thoughts with you hun x
    @skeeter - Fantastic news on your frozen embies xx
    @Tahli - I wonder why Warren has women on so much progesterone if he says 20 or 30 is sufficient is he just covering all bases. My last cycle my progesterone was at 460 and he said thsts good but ideally he likes it at 600, this cycle its been at 780 😨. As for your natural cycle hun I can understand you wanting to go as natural as possible especially if you ovulate naturally but as you say you have waited to see Warren for so long and if you have a natural cycle with him what are you expecting him extra to bring to the table if its not meds and treatment. I don't mean to be direct its just I know I am seeing him for 'action' due to being such a difficult case he can throw anything extra at me if it improves chances. There are women in the ivf/fet August thread though who have fallen pregnant through natural cycles but I suppose it depends on individual issues.
    @pingc383 - I definitely wouldn't be too concerned about the brown blood as has been said it will be old blood probably from transfer. Wow hun thats a lot to take on with the autoimmune issues (a little above me) was that all identified through bt or different testing? (I might have to look into that). I so hope you are proven wrong and this fet givesyou a success x
    @gorgeousgeorge - love your ideas of what people look like haha! 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Thanks heaps for sharing your experiences of natural FETs girls. I've just finished reading through them. I need to make a decision what I'd like to do, then on Monday see if my lining can get to 6mm on its own. If not, then a natural FET isn't an option. I'd really like to give one a go though. I'm not even sure Wazza would support one and I think CFC would have a conniption at the idea.
    Has anyone actually fallen pregnant doing one?
    RPA did a trial (which was how I got to do one) because Genea has slightly higher success rates with their FETs because they do natural ones so it seems that they have a good success rate. it makes pretty good sense to me given its basically just tacking on to a normal cycle and therefore emulating a natural pregnancy.

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    @gorgeousgeorge - Thankyou so much for your post hun, yes you are definately right I wouldn't be putting myself through this time after time if I didn't have a glimmer of hope that one day it might actually work. Its just a shame that as each day goes by in the tww that hope becomes less and less until I am clutching at straws. Yes although my numbers sound good to people who read my posts they clearly aren't helping me at all and go to show yes I may have lots of eggs but they seem to be of extra poor quality too which makes things harder. I have now transferred 10 embryos in total through 8 transfers so 8 tww, I know lots of women on this thread have similar stories and hardships so I am not alone but it's getting harder and harder. I think thats in some ways why I feel at home in this thread were as I often get left behind on other threads as people move forwards with babies, not that I am wishing anyone being stuck in here with me trying time after time.
    @Maxwellsmum - Yes its very ****ty I hate being told its a numbers game and I am just a difficult case it doesn't make me feel any better at all. I also wish I had started testing my embies earlier than I did.

    I have had more cramping today but I can generally just put it down to the progesterone as I remember this happened last cycle just at the same time before bt big mind fruck! DH is away at the moment and returns tomorrow so have decided to poas tomorrow on his return to put myself out of my misery. It won't be fmu but at this stage if it was a bfp it would show. Thinking this way we then have the weekend to discuss what to do next.

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    Congrats on being pupo @Grace1 fingers crossed this one is the lucky one.
    @Tahli yes it's nice I'm getting updates from both the clinic and the egg donor agency. Medical and emotional bases covered.

    In regards to your cycle if you are doing a natural one I would just go with a low cost clinic. My old clinic which was affiliated with Melb ivf did a natural frozen cycle with me where I stimmed at a low dose, triggered and went for bloods and scans a lot! Transferred a day 5 frosty. Ended up bfn but that's my crappy eggs. My lining was great on that cycle and my first cycle. Go figure.

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    @Heyside i kinda know what u mean about being left behind. In 2010 about 6 months into first ttc, i joined fertility friend to track basal body temp and my cycles. In that forum i made 3 good friends whom i would talk to everyday. Eventually that group fizzled out. Why? Because everyone else got preggers and eventually i was the only one left behind :-( I am still facebook friends with those ladies. Their oldest kids are 10 years old now and theyve since had more. I often think about how my inaginary kids should be at school by now. I remember being so jealous that one of the ladies got pregnant with twins. Then i checked facebook and she had posted that 1 twin had anacephaly (?) and about how she held her after she was born for a few hours until she passed away. I didnt feel jealous anymore, i felt terrible about how i had assumed she was "so lucky".
    She posted on facebook today in honour of her little angel baby because today is world infertility day/angel baby day.

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    Default IVF over 40#37

    Am just doing a bit of research & found this article - maybe my gut feeling isn't completely insane:

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...o-miscarriage/

    In consecutive miscarriages in half of all women their miscarriages are unexplained. Basically the theory is that a sensitivity to progesterone could potentially induce higher NKC activity which attacks the embryo. I wonder if there is any possibility that if I am one of the sensitive ones (& I have a lot of allergies) if whacking a great dose of progesterone up near my uterus could cause an almost instant NKC attack?

    I think I need to look into this further as the ladies who were on here at the time might remember how sick I got during the cycles I did & I ended up with severe hypothyroidism etc - because I was on so much stuff I didn't know what it was making me so sick...what if part of it was a sensitivity to progesterone sending my whole system haywire?

    To the ladies who have consulted with Dr M, would he be the one to consult about this as I genuinely think I could have an issue here.
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    Well said, couldn't agree more!


    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgeorge View Post
    Hello lovely @Heyside, i read your post earlier today but didnt have time to reply properly. Its not an odd way to think at all imo. I think thats how we all go towards the end of the tww. I find those last couple of days excruciatingly mindfrucking. One day towards the end of the tww i just sat on my bed staring at the wall for about 3 hours. Suddenly i snapped out of it and said to myself "what are you doing? Why have you been sitting here for 3 hours doing nothing?" I realised i was just waiting, being aware of my lower abdomen, waiting to feel a period pain/endometriosis cramp so i would know it was all over. Its so hard because you pretend that you arent hopeful but you know that if you didnt genuinly believe it might work, you wouldnt have gone through the whole bloody ivf cycle in the first place, so you know you do truly believe, even just a little bit, that it might just work. I think about you and your pcos a lot actually. At first, when i met you on here, i was thinking it must be good to get so many eggs because you get more of a chance of finding a good one. But now, i think that makes it harder for you in that you kinda get more embys and frosties and consequently have had more transfers and therefore so much more tww torture. Sometimes i feel grateful that i never got many eggs or resulting embys because there was less to transfer and so, that was that. I only had to endure about one 2ww per cycle. Which is also a weird way to think. I think you said you have done 11 transfers? So like, 11x 2ww which must be really really really hard. I think whatever you are thinking and feeling is totally understandable given the circumstances. I think we're all doing well just for getting up in the morning and continuing to exist to be honest. xox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace1 View Post
    Hi everyone,
    lots happening in here

    @skeeter excellent news on your 3 frosties

    @LillyM awesome number of eggs collected - woohoo!!! Do you usually do a day 3 or 5 transfer? Hope you're resting up..

    @pingc383 sorry you only found out today about those issues., I hope you're ok.hugs...

    @Caesardust good luck to you x

    @Heyside hugs to you.. not long now till your bt, fingers crossed for you

    @ange1111 will you do another stim cycle with the next cycle or do you have to wait a while?

    @Blossom74 glad your counseling session went well, those sorts of things are so nerve wracking,

    @Summer so sorry to hear your news

    hi to everyone else,

    Afm my one and only emby is on board so I'm very, very thankful I got to transfer.
    thank you all for your support and encouragement,,.. you are all AWESOME. !!!

    Congrats on being PUPO Luv!!!


    and prayers being sent for a sticky one for you!!!

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