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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    The religion question was optional.
    But even if it wasn't, what difference does it make? How is that information useful to anyone outside the ABS?
    In a world FULL of religious NUTS I think that info is very valuable in the wrong hands.

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    I think the religion question is one of the most important. If only say, 15% of the population identify with Christianity (for example, I have no idea of numbers/stats - I'm making things up here) then you wouldn't want to see the government funneling a heap of money their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    In a world FULL of religious NUTS I think that info is very valuable in the wrong hands.
    Really? I honestly don't. Nut jobs are everywhere and kill willy nilly. I'm very doubtful that a religious extremist is going to target an individual person based on the box they ticked on a census. Bombing a random group at a major event, sure, but not a random person based on a census. I think that sort of reaction is OTT to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    I think that sort of reaction is OTT to be honest.
    Well hold that thought until we see who the hackers are.
    The Australian Defence Force have been hacked before by a certain group haven't they. If you can't see why that information would be useful to certain groups then I'm happy for you, but you don't get to tell me I'm having an overreaction.
    Knickers still on here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    Well hold that thought until we see who the hackers are.
    The Australian Defence Force have been hacked before by a certain group haven't they. If you can't see why that information would be useful to certain groups then I'm happy for you, but you don't get to tell me I'm having an overreaction.
    Knickers still on here!
    I'm not telling you anything, simply saying that I think if people honestly think that random people care that much about the boring information collected by the census is more valuable than the absolute mountain of information the government and financial institutions already have then yeah, I think getting that paranoid is an overreaction. It's simply my thought.

    My understanding was that no information was "hacked", that it was simply a case of bots being used to deliberately overwhelm the system to basically prove the ABS wrong when they said they had done capacity testing? Not even in the same realm as hacking if that's actually the case. I could be wrong, I can't actually remember where I read that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    In a world FULL of religious NUTS I think that info is very valuable in the wrong hands.
    For most people their religion is hardly a private matter, they'll be visiting their church or religious events, and will most likely be happy to tell you their religion if you ask them. Seems a bit extreme to hack into Census data to find out this information. On the other hand, I think a lot of people are interested in the changing religious beliefs and affiliations of our country. Where could they find reliable information about this? Oh yeah, the Census.

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    The identifiable data is stripped from the rest of the form once it's submitted so what does it matter who hacks in and what they use the info for? A "terrorist" will be able to tell that person 12322432321 was catholic at some point in time and they had 6 children. This is definitely going to help them launch an attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    #colesandwooliesjustcalledtoconfirmtheyhaverunouto falfoil
    And took everyone's private details when they used their loyalty cards!

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    So now they saying it was not an attack, just poor system design...

    Man they trully have no idea

    Loving the tweets going on, too funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    My understanding was that no information was "hacked", that it was simply a case of bots being used to deliberately overwhelm the system to basically prove the ABS wrong when they said they had done capacity testing? Not even in the same realm as hacking if that's actually the case. I could be wrong, I can't actually remember where I read that.
    Yes that's the spiel so far.


    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    Seems a bit extreme to hack into Census data to find out this information.
    Well, it's not that I think they would specifically try hack the census for this info only but if it's there for the taking...
    It's just an example. There's a lot of defence force workers really concerned about the online version too.
    I would imagine the next census won't even give the paper option.

    Anyway, yeah my real issue is not about the info we give but how we were made to give it.
    Every day there's something on TV or news websites about internet security and how we shouldn't trust it.
    Anything online is at risk of being hacked.
    It's a big ask/demand.

    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    The identifiable data is stripped from the rest of the form once it's submitted so what does it matter who hacks in and what they use the info for? A "terrorist" will be able to tell that person 12322432321 was catholic at some point in time and they had 6 children. This is definitely going to help them launch an attack.
    Yeah, true.
    Wonder how quickly does that process happens after we click submit.
    Immediately or are the ABS manually doing that for weeks afterwards like when they used the paper version only?


 

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