Gosh I feel so much better, I really felt like a monster for taking away their toys. I usually help them pack up and it's mostly me packing up but last night I was running late Hubby was getting home later than normal I needed tea ready before he got home and had no idea what I was making. So I asked them to do it. But they just ignored me over and over and over. It wall all over the floor, I had to walk through it like I was skating (I'm no good at skating) to get to the door to turn the light on for hubby, and I just lost it, all the times of asking them to help pack up and all the times they don't listen, everything just came to a head and I decided they would have nothing. Today they have been allowed a small handful of playdough each. It's actually been nice watching them play with it. They have been quite inventive, Makes me wonder if they actually need ALL the STUFF we have.