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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    95% of terrorist attacks in the western world are caused by Muslims? Would love to see where that statistic came from?
    I can tell you the majority of peadophiles are men , the majority of murderers are all men so does that mean should we ban all men from living in our society - no - but that's how ludicrous Sonia's banning Muslims from coming to Australia sounds

    It is the radical followers of any religion that cause the most harm not an entire religion , I can quote you horrid passages from any religious text ( Old Testament has some crackers!) plus no one can really interpret text from any religious book properly without actually knowing all about the background and translations - my Jewish grandmother hated the way the Christians misinterpreted the Old Testament as they turned it into how they wanted it to read - not how it was actually written so be careful in believing a few passages from a book that you really don't understand properly
    I didn't say the western world. I actually meant in the entire world. But regardless of the statistic that everyone is getting upset about, you are all missing the point! People are scared, and we need to have an open discussion about that. I'm not here to convince you of the evils of the Muslim faith, I don't like any organized religion! (although I do think the Muslim religion is particularly bad), what my point was was that SK opened up a discussion that many Australians want to have - there is validity to that. Everyone is so quick to deny and defend the Muslim religion that they aren't looking at the facts.

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    Starting a discussion is fine, using your media platform to spew hate is a totally different thing.

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    To the people defending SK of 'starting a discussion.' What do you think of Donald Trump? He actually started 'that' discussion. Is it safe to assume he's the type of politician you would like to see running Australia because that's who you get when you have a mass of people supporting that type of conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperGranny View Post
    pardon my ignorance, but what is " Daesh" ? marie
    It is another name for ISIS.

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    What she said is horrible but so is she.

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    Agree with witherwings and those who share her sentiments. Especially like the link to angry white men and how when they shoot up a school it's not 'terrorism'. Also the Orlando shootings became an IS terrorist attack when the shooter was found to be of Arab descent, when in reality it was a disillusioned, angry man with internalised homophobia.

    Terrorism is merely the inciting of terror - it can apply to anything, I would argue that a school shooting is an act of terror - however, Western society has exploited the definition to be specific to any attack involving Muslims/Middle Eastern people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    Agree with witherwings and those who share her sentiments. Especially like the link to angry white men and how when they shoot up a school it's not 'terrorism'. Also the Orlando shootings became an IS terrorist attack when the shooter was found to be of Arab descent, when in reality it was a disillusioned, angry man with internalised homophobia.

    Terrorism is merely the inciting of terror - it can apply to anything, I would argue that a school shooting is an act of terror - however, Western society has exploited the definition to be specific to any attack involving Muslims/Middle Eastern people.
    Exactly. A white, christian male shoots up a school or public area and he has "mental health issues" and it's an "isolated event".
    Yet it's only when it involves a Muslim that it becomes a terrorist attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    To the people defending SK of 'starting a discussion.' What do you think of Donald Trump? He actually started 'that' discussion. Is it safe to assume he's the type of politician you would like to see running Australia because that's who you get when you have a mass of people supporting that type of conversation.
    We aren't talking about America or Donald Trump, we are talking about Australia and Sonia Kruger. Americas issues are there's alone. Although it is obvious that whatever he is saying is resonating with their residents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerKat View Post
    We aren't talking about America or Donald Trump, we are talking about Australia and Sonia Kruger. Americas issues are there's alone. Although it is obvious that whatever he is saying is resonating with their residents.
    But it's the same sentiment and same issues that we are discussing in this thread that is the backbone of his campaign. If you support that type of rhetoric then you are supporting the ability for people like Trump to come to power. It's called Nationalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    Exactly. A white, christian male shoots up a school or public area and he has "mental health issues" and it's an "isolated event".
    Yet it's only when it involves a Muslim that it becomes a terrorist attack.
    But is he committing that act in the name of Christianity? Or is he a mentally deranged white person who happens to be Christian. You only have to look up on Wikipedia the number of terrorist attacks CLAIMED by IS to see that the sheer amount of attacks committed by their group doesn't even compare to the amount of non-Muslim terror attacks. I just don't see how people can deny the facts?? If you look at what has been happening in France over the past year (attacks on journalists, on innocent people at a concert, in Nice recently) I think it's reasonable that Australian's are concerned about that..... It boggles my mind that that wouldn't seem understandable even if you don't share those same fears.
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