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    Outrageous.

    I'm just horrified (but not really surprised) that this sort of comment could be made on national tv without what seems to be any second thought or self-reflection whatsoever on her part.

    She's no great scholar - but surely most people know better than to be so overtly racist? It seems not, based on this 😕

    Shows how racist and xenophobic society as a whole is at the moment in my view.

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    Or fashion consultant.

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    It's so disgusting, being someine with an ethnic background who has a lot of Muslim friends it actually makes me sick that someone could say that and then be offended because she is being labeled a racist.

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    Whilst part of me agrees and disagrees with what she's saying (I haven't decided yet on the subject), I wonder if it's coming from a mumma bear perspective. All we want is for our kids to be safe and have a safe country to live in, so of course we want to limit the threat of those attacks happening here.

    What annoys me the most is that as soon as someone speaks out about it, they are labelled dumb, stupid, racist etc. Discussions need to be had about how to keep our country safe. Not everyone has to agree with what she said, but I think it's great that she's starting the conversation in mainstream media where everyone seems to be scared to voice a different opinion, for fear of being attacked like Sonia has been.

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    I think it's natural to be scared. That's the point of terrorism. But her fear is misdirected. We should be scared of Muslim people (or any minority group) already in Australia feeling marginalised and disaffected, to the point that they become radicalised and start thinking of joining ISIS or acting as a lone wolf in their name, as has happened MANY times to our youth already over the last few years, and these people were not immigrants.
    I think the fear/focus should be directed toward positive changes in society, education, acceptance and integration. People don't become radicalised when they feel they are valued and included in society.

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    What's the definition of racism then? Doesn't she fit into that category by saying we should stop Muslims from entering the country? At the end of the day it's her opinion and she can choose to voice it but her opinion is still racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawaii View Post
    Whilst part of me agrees and disagrees with what she's saying (I haven't decided yet on the subject), I wonder if it's coming from a mumma bear perspective. All we want is for our kids to be safe and have a safe country to live in, so of course we want to limit the threat of those attacks happening here.

    What annoys me the most is that as soon as someone speaks out about it, they are labelled dumb, stupid, racist etc. Discussions need to be had about how to keep our country safe. Not everyone has to agree with what she said, but I think it's great that she's starting the conversation in mainstream media where everyone seems to be scared to voice a different opinion, for fear of being attacked like Sonia has been.
    Yes but if you have a racist/xenophobic opiniom of course you are going to be called one. And if it truly is your opinion you just have to back yourself and own it.

    As for her opinion, well I personally disagree and think that the demonisation of Muslims will lead to more home grown terrorism and lead them to reach out to groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawaii View Post
    What annoys me the most is that as soon as someone speaks out about it, they are labelled dumb, stupid, racist etc. Discussions need to be had about how to keep our country safe. Not everyone has to agree with what she said, but I think it's great that she's starting the conversation in mainstream media where everyone seems to be scared to voice a different opinion, for fear of being attacked like Sonia has been.
    Speaking against an entire group, is discrimination, not the start of a conversation! She didn't say "I'm worried about my child's safety so we should stop extremists immigrants. She spoke against an entire religion. Should we stop all Christians coming here because of the KKK?

    What Sonia said was horrible, ignorant, and offensive. I sincerely hope she has less Muslim friends than she apparently did when she made that statement. They all deserve better friends than her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    I think it's natural to be scared. That's the point of terrorism. But her fear is misdirected. We should be scared of Muslim people (or any minority group) already in Australia feeling marginalised and disaffected, to the point that they become radicalised and start thinking of joining ISIS or acting as a lone wolf in their name, as has happened MANY times to our youth already over the last few years, and these people were not immigrants.
    I think the fear/focus should be directed toward positive changes in society, education, acceptance and integration. People don't become radicalised when they feel they are valued and included in society.

    Perfectly said!


 

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